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post #1876 of 2042

Well, after reading up like crazy on the forums, I decided to go for the dj100 for my first pair of proper headphones, partly because I got to try them out one time and because of tdockweiler's review of them. All I have to say is thank you very much! I love them, they're so clear and well balanced, plus I didn't have to break the bank for such good sound; cans, LOD, e6, and m50 earpads for 75 bucks, can't beat it! 

 

post #1877 of 2042

I am looking for an mp3 player and amp if necessary using with my djpro 100 TB.

 

I ussually listen to rock and metal bands such as haggard, epica, in extremo, within temptation these my favorites. Should I change my stock earpads and which ones?

 

I have low budget that I want best performance for lower price and it can show album cover images :)


I look sansa fuze and fuze+ then fuze+ has better screen for album covers altough it does not have lod (is it important for it), fuse has.

 

Are fuse+ and fiio6 sutiable for my request or what are your suggestions for me?

post #1878 of 2042
Just picked up a pair of these, for $30 CDN at Staples! I guess they are discontinued, and there is just a handful of stock left. Considering these cost me a bit more the some jvc marshmallows, they are fantastic. Best $30 I've spent in ages. These have a really clear mid-range that gives my shure 840s some serious competition. Listening to Wes Montgomery the Verve Jazz Sides at the moment and its a perfect pairing. They lose some detail in the lower registers, and are a bit congested or grainy, but what's good on these is very very good. One thing I noticed immediately is that it has a distinctive character/eq curve. I think it works quite well and I didn't think I'd be enjoying these as much as I am.

Well built with a sturdy case and detachable cord is a plus. Even if you have more costly phones, this is good buy if not just for the office/trailer/camping. Another hit from Koss.
Edited by Malfunkt - 6/21/13 at 7:18pm
post #1879 of 2042

For some reason I have been subscribed to this thread for a long time. I'm not sure why, because I never really have been seriously interested in the DJ100's. The times that I have read posts here, they have always been entertaining! But I have also gotten the sense that they are pretty good budget phones, so I have been intrigued by them.

 

Anyway, today on the deals thread someone mentioned that Staples here in Canada is blowing out the TBSE's for $30. Not knowing anything about them, I read Tyll's review for them which basically was "meh, they are average for $150". Which actually sounds pretty good coming from Tyll if you can find them for $30! While reading that review, I also got clued into the fact that they are the same as the DJ100's.

 

So I just snagged the TBSE's for $30 and threw them on my head. I plan on letting them burn in before making any judgements, but I have to say that after an hour of listening to them upon open box (through rockboxed clip zip + C&C BH), I have to say that I am really enjoying them!

 

I will now definitely be taking a more serious look at this thread! I'm not really feeling the energy to be getting into a bunch of mods, but if these things can even sound better with some easy and inexpensive mods, then I just might have to do them. And I see now that tdockweiler's OP has a bunch of good info in it, so that will be a good place for me to start!

 

So, hello everyone! You have no choice in the matter - I am now in the club!

 beerchug.gif

post #1880 of 2042
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

For some reason I have been subscribed to this thread for a long time. I'm not sure why, because I never really have been seriously interested in the DJ100's. The times that I have read posts here, they have always been entertaining! But I have also gotten the sense that they are pretty good budget phones, so I have been intrigued by them.

 

Anyway, today on the deals thread someone mentioned that Staples here in Canada is blowing out the TBSE's for $30. Not knowing anything about them, I read Tyll's review for them which basically was "meh, they are average for $150". Which actually sounds pretty good coming from Tyll if you can find them for $30! While reading that review, I also got clued into the fact that they are the same as the DJ100's.

 

So I just snagged the TBSE's for $30 and threw them on my head. I plan on letting them burn in before making any judgements, but I have to say that after an hour of listening to them upon open box (through rockboxed clip zip + C&C BH), I have to say that I am really enjoying them!

 

I will now definitely be taking a more serious look at this thread! I'm not really feeling the energy to be getting into a bunch of mods, but if these things can even sound better with some easy and inexpensive mods, then I just might have to do them. And I see now that tdockweiler's OP has a bunch of good info in it, so that will be a good place for me to start!

 

So, hello everyone! You have no choice in the matter - I am now in the club!

 beerchug.gif

 

I haven't posted in this thread in about forever. My Tony Bennett has been in the closest and not used much lately. I made the stupid mistake of throwing away the original pads. I think the Auray Sheepskin pads make them a bit too bassy and maybe a tad congested. The Velours are good but maybe not as good as the M50 pads. I need to buy some more M50 pads I think so that I can get back into listening to my DJ100/TB again.

 

I really do think that the best upgrade (IMO) for the DJ100 other than a cheap amp is M50 pads. They're easy to put on and fairly cheap. Unfortunately unless you put them into a case, the M50 pads can go hard after about 6 months to a year.

 

This is in response to the 2nd to last post:

 

I've found that if the DJ100 ever sounds congested it's usually when I use them straight out of a warm portable source and this is not very common and only with a few tracks. I never knew it right away but the soundstage increases in size and the congestion goes away when I use it with a nice computer DAC. This is another reason why the M50 pads seem to be best for when using the DJ100 straight out of a portable source. It's a bit hard to describe. It seems to add a tiny bit of treble and make everything less closed in and a little less up-front.

 

BTW I've found that Best Buy will price match Amazon.

 

You can print out this page and take it to customer service. I'm going to go try this now. Amazon has the DJ100 for $40.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Koss-ProDJ100-Headphones/dp/B003X1BEKI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371934334&sr=8-1&keywords=koss+pro+dj+100

 

I still think Koss needs to re-do the pads and perhaps put a thin foam backing on them. I don't know why the M50 pads sounds so good. I think it's the foam, more room for your ears and a better seal.


Edited by tdockweiler - 6/22/13 at 1:56pm
post #1881 of 2042
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

I haven't posted in this thread in about forever. My Tony Bennett has been in the closest and not used much lately. I made the stupid mistake of throwing away the original pads. I think the Auray Sheepskin pads make them a bit too bassy and maybe a tad congested. The Velours are good but maybe not as good as the M50 pads. I need to buy some more M50 pads I think so that I can get back into listening to my DJ100/TB again.

 

I really do think that the best upgrade (IMO) for the DJ100 other than a cheap amp is M50 pads. They're easy to put on and fairly cheap. Unfortunately unless you put them into a case, the M50 pads can go hard after about 6 months to a year.

 

 

Curious: what is getting most of your listening time these days?

 

Getting the M50 pads sounds like a no-brainer. Thanks.

post #1882 of 2042
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Originally Posted by accountname View Post

I am looking for an mp3 player and amp if necessary using with my djpro 100 TB.

 

I ussually listen to rock and metal bands such as haggard, epica, in extremo, within temptation these my favorites. Should I change my stock earpads and which ones?

 

I have low budget that I want best performance for lower price and it can show album cover images :)


I look sansa fuze and fuze+ then fuze+ has better screen for album covers altough it does not have lod (is it important for it), fuse has.

 

Are fuse+ and fiio6 sutiable for my request or what are your suggestions for me?

 

Well, I'm listening to my TB's out of a rockboxed clip zip ($30) and the C&C BH ($100), and I'm pretty happy with the sound right out of the box. So, I think that combo will provide pretty good synergy. The C&C BH opens up the soundstage and adds a bit of brightness. Seems to really work well with the TB's. Also, the C&C BH has an 80 hour battery life. The clip zip's screen is weenie though for album art.

 

The Fiio X3 DAP will go for around $200 and is shaping up to be a pretty great DAP for the price, so you might want to keep your eyes on it. Here is a good thread about it.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/651769/fiio-x3-thread-full-review-http-www-head-fi-org-t-663600-impression-fiio-x3-high-fi-low-price

post #1883 of 2042
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

Curious: what is getting most of your listening time these days?

 

Getting the M50 pads sounds like a no-brainer. Thanks.

 

Q701 definitely and I like it even more since I got the E17 + L7 for Lineout to my Micro Amp.

I also have some Annie pads for them but they never seem to stay installed since I get bored with that sound.

 

The E17 DAC adds a tiny bit of warm to the already warm Q701. The Modi is better but E17 is pretty musical to me.

The Modi also seems to have a larger (sounding) soundstage. Not sure why.

 

BTW I just got back from Best Buy. They will price match the Amazon $40 deal and you can do it all at checkout!

You just need to print out the Amazon page.

 

Cost was $42.40. Good idea for those that are too impatient. I also live within 2 minutes of a Best Buy.

 

Oh yeah.. only reason the TB is not getting used is because I threw out the pads and just moved. HD-650 and Q701 are my top 2 that are open. My HD-650 pads have gone flat and I need to buy some more now. Still sounds amazing and doesn't have a mid-bass hump like the HD-600. Feels weird saying that..


Edited by tdockweiler - 6/22/13 at 2:28pm
post #1884 of 2042

You mentioned this in the deals thread:

 

Quote:
 The DJ100 cable is also coiled. So is the TB version, but you can buy a straight cable for $4 since it's detachable. TB also includes a free album and case.

 

I'm sure it's posted in this thread somewhere, but do you have a link available? No worries if not. 

Edit: you can ignore this - I'm sure they are available everywhere.

 

I really like the case that came with the TB's. That alone is worth $30 lol!  My $200 ATH WS99's didn't even come with a case (but, they have a nice case now!) smile.gif


Edited by waynes world - 6/22/13 at 2:45pm
post #1885 of 2042
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

You mentioned this in the deals thread:

 

 

I'm sure it's posted in this thread somewhere, but do you have a link available? No worries if not. 

Edit: you can ignore this - I'm sure they are available everywhere.

 

I really like the case that came with the TB's. That alone is worth $30 lol!  My $200 ATH WS99's didn't even come with a case (but, they have a nice case now!) smile.gif

 

You can get one at Monoprice or at any Wal-Mart. At any wal-mart get the one from GE since it's thinner than the other ones. Cost is $3-$4 I believe.

My favorite is one from Target called the "Ge Ultra Pro". It's pricey at $10 but includes a 1/8" to dual RCA adapter cable and also looks nice. It has clear plastic and you can see the metal sleeving inside.

It's impossible to get this one to tangle too.

 

At Monoprice makes sure to get the mini to mini cable that's made for car audio. The normal ones are way too thick.

post #1886 of 2042
Thread Starter 

I've been listening to this new out of the box DJ100 for the past hour maybe. Figured i'd leave some quick impressions of THIS pair since I haven't used a stock DJ100 in maybe a year.

It's been the TB with M50 pads.

 

Out of the box it sounds great. Female vocals have some slight emphasis which is nice. Some songs with weird peaks sounded a little more bothersome than I remember. I think once these have a few hours of use that will smooth itself out.

The bass in some songs seems a bit more farty than I remember. Some slight mid-bass emphasis which is weird. I think it's probably the songs. Again, probably will smooth itself out after use. Not like a V6 or anything.

 

All my songs sound mostly the same as I remember and with no major coloration. There is some warmth for sure and this DJ100 (out of the box) has a sound that is a little forward in the mids and fun/engaging. Slight, but still pretty flat.

 

I think the difference in the bass is due to the pads. I think perhaps when my ears are closer to the driver there is more mid-bass.

 

The M50 pads definitely (IMO!) make the sound a bit more clear and improves the soundstage size and instrument separation. A little more airy and spacious sounding. However that's possible. Not like an open headphone though, but at times I'm fooled! The stock pads make everything sound a little more forward.

I think the reason the M50 pads make everything sound clearer is just that it adds a touch of treble and reduces warmth very slightly. This is just my idea. I think when your ears are further from the driver you get a little less bass and more treble.

 

DJ100 stock doesn't sound as crystal clear sounding as the DJ100 with M50 pads. Maybe this pair needs more use. Still clear but doesn't wow me in that area like the DJ100/TB with M50 pads.

 

Based on memory, the DJ100 sounded clearer and clearer and less congested the more I used it. Maybe this is just due to it's titanium driver. Let's not go there.. normal_smile%20.gif Could be maybe that along with the pads getting softer? No idea.

 

Setup for all this is the Schiit Modi to Headroom Micro. Both of them are transparent IMO. I don't find either of them warm at all.

 

I think for gaming and any music that requires a large soundstage (Classical etc), M50 pads are best.

 

Going to try the DJ100 straight out of the E17 as an amp/dac later. Who knows, maybe i'll like it.

 

BTW sometimes when the DJ100 sounds muffled it's actually the recording and not the headphone biggrin.gif Try some HDtracks on the DJ100 if you can!

 

The new out of the box DJ100s always feel very stiff in the headband and a little creaky feeling but it goes away fast.


Edited by tdockweiler - 6/22/13 at 3:46pm
post #1887 of 2042
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

You can get one at Monoprice or at any Wal-Mart. At any wal-mart get the one from GE since it's thinner than the other ones. Cost is $3-$4 I believe.

My favorite is one from Target called the "Ge Ultra Pro". It's pricey at $10 but includes a 1/8" to dual RCA adapter cable and also looks nice. It has clear plastic and you can see the metal sleeving inside.

It's impossible to get this one to tangle too.

 

At Monoprice makes sure to get the mini to mini cable that's made for car audio. The normal ones are way too thick.

 

Awesome - thanks. We have both a WalMart and Target in town. But they are the Canadian versions, so we'll see!

 

I've also been looking at M50 pads. Some $25 options on amazon.com, but I can't buy from there. None on amazon.ca. Lots of dubious options on ebay though! Again, I'm sure there are some links in this thread, so I'll start digging.

post #1888 of 2042
Where on earth did you find the TBSE's in Canada for $30? I'd love to have a pair but I can't seem to find any...

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post #1889 of 2042
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Where on earth did you find the TBSE's in Canada for $30? I'd love to have a pair but I can't seem to find any...

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From the Deals thread Staples has them on clearance.
post #1890 of 2042
Must not be listed on Staples page... I'll have to check with them.

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