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post #1846 of 2249
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Currently blown away with my new JVC HA-S400 which cost me only $25. Beats my Superlux and other previous headphones that cost a lot more. I haven't really touched my other headphones after acquiring it and its more likely killed my itch to buy more expensive headphones. I'll probably buy another one for backup. biggrin.gif

Very interesting. Where did you buy your JVCs? $25? I want to give them a try too.

post #1847 of 2249

hahaha...! i saw that coming... LOL biggrin.gif

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Very interesting. Where did you buy your JVCs? $25? I want to give them a try too.

I picked them up locally at Fry's but amazon sells them too. Prices my vary since I'm in the US.

Make sure to check out the HA-S400 thread here.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626332/the-new-jvc-ha-s400-affordable-carbon-nanotube-cans-for-the-masses
Edited by Level5 - 5/7/13 at 2:01am
post #1849 of 2249
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I picked them up locally at Fry's but amazon sells them too. Prices my vary since I'm in the US.

Make sure to check out the HA-S400 thread here.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626332/the-new-jvc-ha-s400-affordable-carbon-nanotube-cans-for-the-masses

those? same hp different color? 

http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/276-5900152-8040022?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=JVC%20HA-S400

very tempting... i need a fix...damn i'm such a junkie, i need a rehab, now.


Edited by Hairspray - 5/7/13 at 2:13am
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Yup those are the right ones. I picked the white to match my Superlux.
post #1851 of 2249
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Yup those are the right ones. I picked the white to match my Superlux.

 

very tempting... i need a fix...damn i'm such a junkie, i need a rehab, now.

(btw, me likey mucho your avatar... haha)

post #1852 of 2249
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very tempting... i need a fix...damn i'm such a junkie, i need a rehab, now.

(btw, me likey mucho your avatar... haha)

Thanks but I'll most likely change it to the JVC one haha. This definitely killed my mojo to buy anymore headphones. I tried so many headphones that when I tried this I just felt like kicking myself for wasting money and time.

This was my cure!
post #1853 of 2249
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Thanks but I'll most likely change it to the JVC one haha. This definitely killed my mojo to buy anymore headphones. I tried so many headphones that when I tried this I just felt like kicking myself for wasting money and time.

This was my cure!

 

What the heck is the "JVC One"?! Yet another magic HP you've just bought? You definitely need a doctor biggrin.gif tongue.gif wink.gif

post #1854 of 2249
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Originally Posted by Hairspray View Post

In the under $100 price range, there are many way better cans than the Koss DJ 100.

The Koss are far from audiophile cans. I paid almost $100 for them (in Europe), which is to much.

The more I listen to them, the more I find them mediocre. They sound so artificial and fatiguing. Vocals are horrible. frown.gif

 

The name itself says it all: PRO DJ 100! Those are NOT professional headphones, neither DJs headphones. Don't trust the so-called pro gear rolleyes.gif. IMO, the Dj 100 were made for teenies: dark and boomy, and "PRO" branded...

I'm really disappointed and, by reading my private messages, I can tell you that I'm not the only one... Typically over-hyper / over-rated headphones.

 

Among many other hidden beauties, Superlux 661 ($30, portable), 662F ($30, monitoring), 681 EVO ($30, home listening) are what I call budget kings. I bought the three of them for less than $100 shipping included (100!) and they sound 100x better than the Pro DJ thing. L3000.gif

 

I'm not bashing, that's just my opinion and my standards might be different than someone else's. biggrin.gif cool.gif


It was a mistake to pay $100 for these when you can buy them used for half that. I don't know where you're getting 'dark and boomy' from these, but if that's what you hear, then that's what you hear. They are well made and they have a lifetime manufacturer's warranty, so they have their benefits if you get them at a good price. They are in fact made for DJing with the swiveling cups and the mono switch...I went ahead and got the M50 pads for these and I like them more as a result. I want to try the Superlux models you have - I think there's a shop here that has some of them - that is dirt cheap and worth a look.

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I'm sorry, but anyone says these are "dark and boomy" has either a really bad source or a defect.

Maybe the resulting sound variations has a lot to do with the stock ear pads. Maybe with larger ears you get less treble and more bass. No clue..

Overall the sound signature is very well balanced for me, but leans slightly to having sort of a "fun" sound signature. Not anywhere near V-shaped.

 

 

I think i've heard it all now. Too much bass, too little bass, not enough treble or too much. Nothing wrong with that..

post #1856 of 2249

Really got sick of the mid-treble/upper-treble on these. Too weird for my tastes. Selling them in the FS section instead. 
I have HD555s now, which I strongly prefer, and HD280's in the mail.

 

I do need to get another pair of HD238's though, and am considering something from the 428/438/448 series. I prefer the HD428's sound to the PRODJ100/TBSE, tbh.

 

I thought it would get better over time, and while the TBSE's are extremely well-performing on acoustic music, they are not good all-around. They just all-out fail for punk/metal.

post #1857 of 2249
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Really got sick of the mid-treble/upper-treble on these. Too weird for my tastes. Selling them in the FS section instead. 
I have HD555s now, which I strongly prefer, and HD280's in the mail.

 

I do need to get another pair of HD238's though, and am considering something from the 428/438/448 series. I prefer the HD428's sound to the PRODJ100/TBSE, tbh.

 

I thought it would get better over time, and while the TBSE's are extremely well-performing on acoustic music, they are not good all-around. They just all-out fail for punk/metal.

 

For metal and classical I always say that M50 pads and a good computer DAC are best. For some reason the M50 pads increase the treble and give the headphones an impression of a larger soundstage. Less forward mids perhaps. A computer DAC has improves the soundstage size of these headphones more than anything else IMO. It's mostly due to the DAC and not so much the amp.

 

I think they're a good all-rounder IMO, but they're just too picky with gear for whatever reason.

 

I can totally understand someone preferring the Sennheiser type sound. I had the HD-555 (modded) for maybe 3-4 years and eventually gave them to my brother. I still have the HD-598 though but it never gets used. I prefer the HD-650, but mine is really well balanced/flat. Weird, I know.

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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

For metal and classical I always say that M50 pads and a good computer DAC are best. For some reason the M50 pads increase the treble and give the headphones an impression of a larger soundstage. Less forward mids perhaps.

 

i agree: DJ's Pro are good for classical and they revive old metal, punk and indie rock recordings, L3000.gif

although i prefer my Beyer DT-150 for those genres.

 

on the other hand, IMO (with my setup) the DJ's sound horrible with acoustic, folk, female vocals, ... triportsad.gif

 

I have the M50 pads since day 1 (good separation, hairy, but heavy bass and recessed upper mids and vocals -> nasty drop at 5-6000 -> check the headroom graph).

I should go back to the regular factory pads for more forward mids, vocals,... I will give them a try.

 

The problem with this thread is that everyone is referring to another version/edition of the DJ's...

Each post should begin with the version/setup used, for example (my version/setup):

DJ PRO 100, european version, all plastic cups, M50's pads, ODAC+O2

post #1859 of 2249
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It was a mistake to pay $100 for these when you can buy them used for half that. (...)

They are in fact made for DJing with the swiveling cups and the mono switch...

 

In Europe, they are around 80 euros ($100), and that is expensive. I was expecting more for the bucks. You won't find them at $ 35-50 here. 

For amateur DJing, they are ok, but "DJ Pro 100" is not the best name for them, there are so many superior DJing phones...

post #1860 of 2249

I dunno how anyone could think DJ100 dark and boomy, that's the most distant description I could think of the phone. confused_face.gif

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