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post #1426 of 2250

Well after using these a little longer I'm still sticking to my thought's on Source/Music.   I hooked up my M-Stage to my Marantz CD-5004. And I still notice the source music makes a difference.  That being, anything that has been mastered badly, still sounds bad.  Forget "Loudness" War cds.  They sound Horrible on the Koss.  These headphone are very picky when it come to the music being fed to them. 

 

They sound the best with any " Original" Pressing I toss at them.  I know I'm going off topic now..lol

 

But basically these really need a good Source, and by that I mean music material.  They work very well out of your Ipod/Com

But put a little power behind them with a good mastered cd and it's really is a nice experience. 

 

I'm listening to the Original Canadian Anthem Pressing of Rush's -2112 and it sounds stunning!!   Very Analog sounding!!! 

 

I guess the old saying " Garbage in, Garbage out" is really true....These headphones really show that, clearly.

post #1427 of 2250

Tried this morning to plug my DJ100 in my Aune T1 with upgraded tube ( Mullard 6DJ8) ... In one word : WOW ... DJ100 seems to my ears appreciate the Tube sound : more bodied Bass and Overal Sound and a bit tamed trebles without any EQ ... very good Combo !

 

This can really worthes the little investment for sure !
 


Edited by Sorrodje - 1/8/13 at 7:52am
post #1428 of 2250

Anyone know how I can increase the bass cheaply without losing detail in mids and highs? I tried raising the EQ bar for bass but upon a bass hit the sound quitens down and throughout the whole song many details are lost (like some guitar and such). Using Koss DJ100 of course.

post #1429 of 2250
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Originally Posted by badhomaks View Post

Anyone know how I can increase the bass cheaply without losing detail in mids and highs? I tried raising the EQ bar for bass but upon a bass hit the sound quitens down and throughout the whole song many details are lost (like some guitar and such). Using Koss DJ100 of course.


Swap out the pads to the M50's...

post #1430 of 2250
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Swap out the pads to the M50's...

Yeah but will that increase the bass quite a bit? I'm looking for the bass similar to ATH-M50 and I'm thinking the pads will only increase it a bit.

post #1431 of 2250
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Yeah but will that increase the bass quite a bit? I'm looking for the bass similar to ATH-M50 and I'm thinking the pads will only increase it a bit.

Some say the M50 pads increase the bass and others say it decreases it. I think it's nearly the same, but makes the DJ100 sound a bit less warm. Probably due to an impression of more treble. I think the M50 pads offer the clearest sound and best soundstage.

 

Other than very low bass and using an EQ, there is no way you'll get the same amount of bass as the M50 (which is a good thing IMO). I've tried maybe half a dozen pads and it's just not possible unless you put the driver into an XB500 shell.

 

You could always just get a cheap amp with a bass boost. There's the E11 and a few others.

 

Overall to me the Dj100 has slightly more than neutral bass. I think I saw a post from someone awhile back saying it had too much bass! It has more than my Q701, HD-580 and HD-650.

 

BTW M40 pads with foam circles inside the pads give the most bass I think. Since the pads are $25 or so shipped it might not be worth it.

 

Another thing..if you remove the foam backing of the M50 pads while they're on the M50 (don't do it!!) the bass is very close in quantity to the DJ100 with M50 pads. Probably 5% more bass, but it's a bit stupid to put that into a percentage!

 

The graphs on Headroom of the TB/DJ100 vs the M50 look similar. I think the Dj100 actually has a peak in the upper mids which doesn't show up in graphs. The mids of the DJ100 sound much more forward. Vocals I much prefer on the Dj100. I had both versions of the M50 before. The latest one is the closest to being neutral.


Edited by tdockweiler - 1/22/13 at 8:28pm
post #1432 of 2250

For me personally I think the Bass is great, But I'm running them Amped.  I also think these sound better then the M50, Different flavors of course.  The M50 does have more Bass but the Treble steps out of line too much.  The Dj100 just has a better texture to my ears.  Better image as well.  And I agree on the Mids, if you look at the graphs they look pretty Flat in the Mids but it for sure has a more forward sound then the graphs let on.  I think that's why they sound so lush!!!   The M50 on the other hand is much more pulled back.

post #1433 of 2250
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Originally Posted by Magicman74 View Post

For me personally I think the Bass is great, But I'm running them Amped.  I also think these sound better then the M50, Different flavors of course.  The M50 does have more Bass but the Treble steps out of line too much.  The Dj100 just has a better texture to my ears.  Better image as well.  And I agree on the Mids, if you look at the graphs they look pretty Flat in the Mids but it for sure has a more forward sound then the graphs let on.  I think that's why they sound so lush!!!   The M50 on the other hand is much more pulled back.

 

I don't think the M50 is bad, but when I had mine they were right around $100 or so. Before the M50 I had the SRH-840 and loved it but could not deal with the comfort. Side-graded to the M50 and never really got into it much. I was always disappointed by how recessed female vocals sounded. It wasn't a case of being that way in the recording. The M50 I had had bloated bass, recessed upper mids and a lack of treble. Totally weird...the white boxed version I tried last year is much better than the old one.

 

I remember hearing the UR-55 and I couldn't believe how good it sounded for the price. That's how I ended up with the DJ100. I actually drove one hour to a store to buy a pair. I don't know what I was thinking and what are the chances it could be my favorite.

 

I love the DJ100/TB for vocals of any kind. I listen to a lot of Japanese pop music with female vocals and it does well for that. I haven't heard such addicting mids since I last had the Grado SR-225i. I was listening to that thing nonstop for a week until I made the stupid mistake and upgraded to the 325is. I think I lost something.

 

I still prefer my DJ100 to even my Q701 and HD-650 and people think i'm nuts biggrin.gif

 

Despite what people say, I think the DJ100 even has very good low bass extension. It's even a little more extended than my HD-650, but obviously no sub-bass monster, but everyone knows that. It would not please bass-heads really.

 

The mids also don't seem too forward. If they're excessively forward for me, it's usually due to a DAC or AMP screwing something up. The E10 made them a little more forward than I like...

 

The DJ100 actually sounds fairly neutral with the Magni/Micro Amp and ODAC. I do need to eventually hear them on maybe tube amp or hybrid tube amp. Not sure if i'd like it, but might be nice for the HD-650.


Edited by tdockweiler - 1/22/13 at 8:52pm
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Just some pictures of my TBSE to put on Amazon. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #1435 of 2250
I hear crackling when I watch movies... When people speak any idea why? Maybe I need to burn them in? When I replay it the crackling goes away
post #1436 of 2250

Try other sources and see if you have the same problem.

post #1437 of 2250
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Originally Posted by Fuzziekiwi View Post

Try other sources and see if you have the same problem.

i did...it does do it

post #1438 of 2250

tdock, I am wondering if you can equalize the sound to be flat using this thread (from head-fi too) without any amps and then do the same thing with the total airhead amp or any amp that you think makes the Koss sound better. Then post the picture of the equalizer of the normal flat and amp flat. I would really appreciate it if you can find some time to do it. Thanks.

post #1439 of 2250
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Originally Posted by twg1996 View Post

i did...it does do it

What other sources did you try? Other sources as in a new pc or another file?

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What other sources did you try? Other sources as in a new pc or another file?

yes on my new laptop..i had already tried me phone and my desktop also the files were FLAC soim shure it wasnt a file problem but just in case i tried the same file with different headphones but it still does it.

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