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post #16 of 22
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I sure hope Canada is OK. My concern is that Canada is both the biggest trading partner and (I think) the investor in the US, but that might be the UK. But Canadians are still deeply invested here.

The EU is a bit spooky and I'm not happy with the way the '08 crisis was handled (assuming "handling" is even the right word) in the US. Things are delicate and I don't know if things will stabilize before something unexpected knocks everything off kilter. Canada might get sucked into the mess, through no fault of its own. But it's too uncertain to predict anything.

I've been shifting to tangible investments (real property, tools, useful things) and eliminating debt. I'm also thinking hard about a career change to something more stable. A local school district is hiring people for teaching/special ed and will pick up the cost of a Master's in Education. Not what I planned to do, but I don't think I'd be a victim of market vagaries again. (And I'm a sucker for free education, anyway. smily_headphones1.gif) I'll drop off the application next week, see what happens and make a decision. Might also be fun because my mother has taught for close to 45 years and my sister is a principal now working on an Ed.D. I figure I could eventually wrangle my way into a legal/accounting position at an administrative level, too. People are loathe to cut education in the US, so this might be a safe path.


You know, I'm D@M% lucky for everything I have. And take for granted.

 

My college is free, I've got over six digits in my bank, but then I've always been that way.

 

I still live like a homeless man who took over a abandoned apartment. I can't get a normal job for the life of me because of the Big-E word and still can't use my money

 

People don't understand that I do have my money, but then I have to live off of it rather then have a job to pay for my stuff. I'm in more worry then anyone.

 

Someone my age (early 20's) can't get a job because businesses either want college degrees in their fields or work experience. What are they, nuts?

 

I see a 55 year old man working at McDonalds and I asked him "what happened to you're old job?"

He tells me he used to be a sales manager at a Dealership. He made six digits a year without even working. But now he's taking orders for kids that don't understand anything.

 

post #17 of 22
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Yes, and that is a wonderful thing.

A good argument can be made that the best thing that ever happened to the US is that there's a stable and peaceful neighbor up north.

No one really notices that, but when you look at the endless state conflicts in other parts of the world, it's wonderful. There are occasional trade dustups, but the partnership is remarkably good.

Ya that is very true. Unfortunately there is close minded people in both countries though that tend to knock on the other for what a minority thinks or does. Some of these things include canadians assuming all americans are dumb rednecks. (obviously not true judging by this community) and the other i will not mention as it goes into politics which i understand is not allowed here. Lets just say some americans think us canadians are bad politically.
 

 

post #18 of 22
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Ya that is very true. Unfortunately there is close minded people in both countries though that tend to knock on the other for what a minority thinks or does. Some of these things include canadians assuming all americans are dumb rednecks. (obviously not true judging by this community) and the other i will not mention as it goes into politics which i understand is not allowed here. Lets just say some americans think us canadians are bad politically.
 

 


 

I rather like canada. I had a good group of friend over XBLive that were from canada and i used to always hack at them for the "aboot" slang. And then I would ramble on in french and they be all like "why you speaking french" and I'd be like "je pensais que vous parliez tous français!" and they be like "what did you say?"

 

Anyways, is Canada as bad as America, or worse?

post #19 of 22
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I rather like canada. I had a good group of friend over XBLive that were from canada and i used to always hack at them for the "aboot" slang. And then I would ramble on in french and they be all like "why you speaking french" and I'd be like "je pensais que vous parliez tous français!" and they be like "what did you say?"

 

Anyways, is Canada as bad as America, or worse?


 I have never heard the ABOOT slang your talking about. We sound like californians here in the west. At least i get that impression from hollywood. Regarding canada being better or worse that is relative. The un ranks us higher in livability then the us. But the us tends to have more economic freedoms. generally they are very close in terms of the way society is. But just like the usa. we have different areas. We have east coast people with their distinguished accents. We have the quebecers who speak french. We have ther albertans who are rich from all the oil. and we have us aka the west coast. Seems to me that 40% of the population here is asian (no racism intended) we seem to be very varied here having rain forest on the coast. desert like weather in the interrior (where i live) and deciduous forest throughout. More then 1/2 the people here live in vancouver. Overall i like canada. We have universal healthcare and many benefits that help out the poor, disabled and needy. But overall i feel canada and the usa are more alike then different.

 

post #20 of 22
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 I have never heard the ABOOT slang your talking about. We sound like californians here in the west. At least i get that impression from hollywood. Regarding canada being better or worse that is relative. The un ranks us higher in livability then the us. But the us tends to have more economic freedoms. generally they are very close in terms of the way society is. But just like the usa. we have different areas. We have east coast people with their distinguished accents. We have the quebecers who speak french. We have ther albertans who are rich from all the oil. and we have us aka the west coast. Seems to me that 40% of the population here is asian (no racism intended) we seem to be very varied here having rain forest on the coast. desert like weather in the interrior (where i live) and deciduous forest throughout. More then 1/2 the people here live in vancouver. Overall i like canada. We have universal healthcare and many benefits that help out the poor, disabled and needy. But overall i feel canada and the usa are more alike then different.

 


 

"We here in America call ya'llz Capitalist."

 

Actually, I rather enjoy a more Nationalist country. I might want to take a trip to Canada, never been there.

 

The problem with America is that we are all selfish (no fingers). But I like to travel and I've been over to asia and other places in the world and it's like night and day. I go to Japan and everyone is almost borderline freaks when it comes to Joy. Smiling and happy. They are nothing like America. you go to Singapore and everything is spotless. It's the Law there.

 

Now America isn't as bad off for what you get. My friend over in Japan pays the same rent as I do, but lives in a shack of a apartment. I've got a nice 2b2b apartment when he hardly has a kitchen.

post #21 of 22
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Argh. I wrote a lengthy post but I goofed and it's gone now. In short,

 

The high-end market is much better insulated from the whims of the general market, both on the buyer end and the seller end. The sellers are more likely to be financially stable: I doubt someone with doubts of financial stability (even without foreseeing the economic crisis) would buy such a high-end system to begin with. Their reasons for selling probably won't include want of money, so why should they take a lower price? On the other end, the buyers in this market aren't buying to downgrade. They aren't buying to save money. Just my 2 cents. I've had a glass of wine so I apologize for grammatical errors.


I think your assessment is correct if high-end audio is a fairly inelastic good.  It'd be interesting to know how Stax's sales on the O2s were affected when the MSRP was significantly dropped.  I think there are a few more stories to the high-end shops shutting down, such as decreased market share thanks to Audiogon and a healthy preowned market.

 

Something's obviously working, otherwise we wouldn't keep seeing $1-2k converters and $7k+ DACs.

post #22 of 22
As a relative newbie to this site, I would say obviously the recession has hit everywhere, but I don't think it is all doom and gloom. Since I found HeadFi, I started out with a Fiio E5, yes a cheap E5. Then I bought some Denon C751s to use with it, and then a Fiio E7 to a Fiio E9. Anyway, I am now at a Little Dot MKIV and the rest is in my profile. But I wouldn't have got any of this if it was not for all the great people and information here. It is really friendly and informative.

I live in Devon in the UK, and the number of retail closure is dreadful. HiFI shops are going but this is what I have now seen coming out of the recession.

A new audio specialist, Tavistock Audio (10 miles away) opened up, offering a limited selection of gear. But the biggest surprise was out shopping in Plymouth, UK. I went into HMV, and they had the most spectacular wall of headphones, right up to £300. HMV is a CD, DVD and game seller. They then had a massive middle section where you could listen to all the headphones, select the genre of music or connect your iPod and listen to your own music. The selling floor space used for this was considerable. 20% of the store. What is so significant about this, is I have being to buy a new pair of headphones, still am actually, a HD600 or DT990. The handful of hifi shops around said they don't keep any or only a few headphones in stock, whereas here is a major chain tackling the problem head-on .

So what does this mean. It means the market is changing. People with iPods etc want better cans, and this is their entry into the market. This means for us audiophiles more choice, and an evolving market. I think the very specialist stuff at £10,000 will suffer, but new life will appear.

Also, ask yourself, is it necessary to have new models all the time. How old is the Sennheiser HD600?
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