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post #61 of 265


you're missing out man. it's one of the best universal's i've heard so far.

 

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This thread has singlehandedly turned me off of the W4.



 

post #62 of 265
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you're missing out man. it's one of the best universal's i've heard so far.

 



 


x2, and I've heard just about every 'top tier' universal out there. W4 is the only one that can beat my ER4s, and I even prefer them to most full size headphones I've tried (including HD600.)

 

I'd be curious to see how many people who hate the W4s SQ actually bought them from an authorized seller...

 

post #63 of 265

wow, okay i missed this bit completely - katun, i think you should return those W4's to amazon/crawford's if you haven't already and get them again from a proper reseller.

 

at 365 bucks, that's about the same you'd pay at earphonesolutions, an authorized dealer, with a coupon. 

 

the sound signature you've been describing for the W4's don't match up with  - hot, fatiguing treble and sounding thin is NOT what it should sound like, and i think the entire W4 appreciation/impressions thread + joker's review would back that up.

 

you really need to think about where these unauthorized resellers are getting their stock from.
 

 

 
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I cannot help but think that either, because these aren't the least bit impressive.

Bought them brand new from Amazon for $365 or something. Not from a seller.

 

EDIT: Just got my PFE in the mail. I've heard these things are pretty dang neutral with the grey filters.

I guess it's me, because these are too bright as well. It sounds somewhat similar, yet better than the W4.



 


Edited by ubercaffeinated - 9/13/11 at 12:27pm
post #64 of 265

X3 - Had the W4's for 3 weeks and I cannot keep the damn things outta my ears. My floor standers are gathering dust pretty damn quick!!

 

I have retired my other IEM's to the back cupboard as I feel I'm taking a huge step backwards using them.

 

I've been working through a selection of Tips.............the Comply P-Series are giving the best result so far.

 

I am expecting a pair of UERM's any day now, so I can't wait to hear how the W4's stack up against a top Custom Monitor......I'll be sure to post up a review and impression.

 

 

post #65 of 265
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x2, and I've heard just about every 'top tier' universal out there. W4 is the only one that can beat my ER4s, and I even prefer them to most full size headphones I've tried (including HD600.)

 

I'd be curious to see how many people who hate the W4s SQ actually bought them from an authorized seller...

 

 

I got them from EarphoneSolutions, so they are definitely a legit pair. I have owned a few top tier IEMS as well, so it's not price shock or expectations being too high. Not a huge fan so far. Everyone has different preferences. I certainly don't think the W4's are bad at all. They sound excellent, just a bit lifeless to me.
 

 

post #66 of 265
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I got them from EarphoneSolutions, so they are definitely a legit pair. I have owned a few top tier IEMS as well, so it's not price shock or expectations being too high. Not a huge fan so far. Everyone has different preferences. I certainly don't think the W4's are bad at all. They sound excellent, just a bit lifeless to me.
 

 

Fair enough. I'm not trying to insult anyone's legitimate opinion; I just hate that so many defective iems go on to be sold as new stock, and many times the consumer doesn't even realize it. 
 

 

post #67 of 265
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you're missing out man. it's one of the best universal's i've heard so far.

 



 



Hmm, maybe I'll get them the next time earphonesolutions has a coupon.

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Fair enough. I'm not trying to insult anyone's legitimate opinion; I just hate that so many defective iems go on to be sold as new stock, and many times the consumer doesn't even realize it. 
 

 


Most definitely. I remember it was a HUGE problem with the IE8's. They were my favorite at the time, so a lot of people were not hearing them as they should. Add the amount of burn in necessary, and there's a lot of people judging an IEM without really hearing anything near what I was. There are always many variables, like genres, tips, sources, and preferences. It is too bad that IEMS are so tricky, quite a bit more than full sized phones.

 



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Hmm, maybe I'll get them the next time earphonesolutions has a coupon.



Try LABOR11 as a code. It should work for 18% off, at least it did when I used it to buy mine yesterday.

post #69 of 265


yeah man, if the sound signature doesn't jive with you, that's fine. that's a preference, and everyone has what they prefer.

 

my beef with this thread is that what the op describes for what he hears with the W4 is different from what is known about the W4. his description doesn't describe the W4 at all.

 

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I got them from EarphoneSolutions, so they are definitely a legit pair. I have owned a few top tier IEMS as well, so it's not price shock or expectations being too high. Not a huge fan so far. Everyone has different preferences. I certainly don't think the W4's are bad at all. They sound excellent, just a bit lifeless to me.
 

 



 



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Fair enough. I'm not trying to insult anyone's legitimate opinion; I just hate that so many defective iems go on to be sold as new stock, and many times the consumer doesn't even realize it. 
 

 



 

post #70 of 265

 

 

I haven't heard the W4's myself, but for the price, I'd rather go for a set of custom IEM's.

 

jm2c.

post #71 of 265
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yeah man, if the sound signature doesn't jive with you, that's fine. that's a preference, and everyone has what they prefer.

 

my beef with this thread is that what the op describes for what he hears with the W4 is different from what is known about the W4. his description doesn't describe the W4 at all.

 



 





 


I agree but I think someone said they are only good through amping. New opamp setup today, pure class. Signature spot on, very slightly warm. 

 

post #72 of 265


I would go with Customs if resale value wasn't an issue. I'm not rich.. yet!

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I haven't heard the W4's myself, but for the price, I'd rather go for a set of custom IEM's.

 

jm2c.



 

post #73 of 265

 

You're correct on the resale value thing, but that's the only disadvantage I can think of in customs. :)

 

 

post #74 of 265

Sounds like a fairly typical fit problem. The W4 sounded painfully bright with some tips for me as well. With your bog-standard Comply short foamies the treble wasn't hot at all for me, but with some of the plastic tips as well as the longer foamies it was - and thin, steely sound, lacking bass, and steely highs are all symptomatic of a bad fit in general.

 

Everybody's ears are different and you really need to mess around with the gamut of tips before you write off a pair of canalphones. The W4 is actually on the easier side in terms of getting a good fit - the ER-4S for instance is a canalphone that I've never been able to get a consistently good fit with. Sonically the W4 is reasonably well balanced I think, but I agree on the boring bit. It's too dry and laid-back. I still prefer the UM3x by a good margin; it's vivid where the W4 is dull, liquid where the W4 is dry, and is quite a bit more linear and accurate throughout the mids and highs. The W4 does have the wider soundstage, better separation, better bass, and a tad warmer tone.

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[...] the ER-4S for instance is a canalphone that I've never been able to get a consistently good fit with. [...]


 

The ER-4 is the only IEM I couldn't get a good fit with.

 

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