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post #931 of 1170

I just got a PS500 today. I want to say that these are better than my old HF2 but it’s been too long since I listened to them. But the highs seems a bit sweeter than I remember and the bass quality is better. I think there’s less seeping of bass into the midrange. the bass doesn’t get in the way and colour the sound as much - the lower midrange feels a bit cleaner and crisper than my memory of the HF2. But when a song calls for some big bass impact. BAM. it’s there and it surprises me with how powerful it is. 

 

I notice some glare in the highs for some high pitched female vocals but the sound doesn’t seem to have the grain I remember from the HF2. I had done some A-B tests of the HF2 and RS1 and noticed the HF2 was a bit more grainy and “etched” sounding on some loud, wailing vocals. But these PS500 don’t have that character. 

 

I’m really, really enjoying these. highly recommended.

 

edit: maybe amp/DAC choice is making a difference with the PS500 vs the HF2? I’m using an Amphora and Yulong D18 now. back when i had the HF2, i was using a Burson 160 and HRT MS2+ (although neither of those setups is considered “harsh”, as far as I know)


Edited by LCfiner - 6/4/12 at 6:50pm
post #932 of 1170

I'm glad to see you're enjoying the PS-500,i had some for two weeks before i got the urge too upgrade to the PS-1000,but i really like their smooth ''tubey'' sound,and in my opinion the SR-80i and the PS-500 are the best buys among the Grado line,i think you've made a wise choice,happy listening

post #933 of 1170

Yes... they're pretty phenomenal phones.

 

As I listen to Michael Buble's "It's Time" it sounds as if I'm at the live performance.  The tone, tenor, and texture of every instrument and his voice is very natural and realistic.  The soundstage, imaging, separation and placement of each performer is so clear and easy to hear.  Pretty amazing - as if I'm in the theatre, front row center, or actually on the front of the stage!  Yet... there is a sense of the space aournd the performers on stage, and the natural ambience of the theatre, which is not exaggerated, but very real in height, width and depth.

 

Still might prefer a wee bit "leaner" upper bass / lower mids - more typical of the SR-507's, RS-1's or AD2000's in comparison to the PS500's, which sound very "rich" in those frequencies.   Though... I've read others' have experienced the bass and upper mids in Grados clearing up and tightening up with burn in.  I'm expecting this will improve the clarity of the upper bass and lower mids. 

 

But... overall... just superb!

 

And... this is driven by my Shellbrook Maxi Moy with a humble Sony Walkman portable CD player!


Edited by Gradofan2 - 6/22/12 at 9:09pm
post #934 of 1170

The PS500's slight chestyness in the lower mids,is the only thing i didn't like about them,and since i enjoy listening to female vocals music,i found women's voices sounded unatural,as you say,they might lighten up after a while,but i'll never know,now that i've traded them for the PS1000 

post #935 of 1170

And... for those Stevie Ray Vaughn fans... the PS500's are truly amazing!

 

I've never been a "big fan"... but... listening just now to his album "The Sky Is Crying" - I may just have become a fan.  

 

The PS500's are a "match made in...." with his guitar and band - they "round off the edges" a wee bit, and provide all the clarity, detail and resolution you'll ever want!  Tone, tenor and texture are spot on... or, so it seems to me.  Everything just has a "live" sound - the ambience, soundstage, imaging, positioning... etc., etc., etc. - "it's all good."  

 

The PS500's have this big, live sound, with weighty bass slam, with clarity and detail you won't believe... and with all the "live cues" (e.g. buzz of the guitar amps, squeek of the fingers on the steel strings, the vibration of the strings, and all the rest)!   They really improve the sound of live blues rock.

 

If you are an SRV fan... you're gonna want to hear him with these phones (or I suppose the PS1000's, which I'll have on Tuesday)!


Edited by Gradofan2 - 6/24/12 at 5:20pm
post #936 of 1170
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post

And... for those Stevie Ray Vaughn fans... the PS500's are truly amazing!

 

I've never been a "big fan"... but... listening just now to his album "The Sky Is Crying" - I may just have become a fan.  

 

The PS500's are a "match made in...." with his guitar and band - they "round off the edges" a wee bit, and provide all the clarity, detail and resolution you'll ever want!  Tone, tenor and texture are spot on... or, so it seems to me.  Everything just has a "live" sound - the ambience, soundstage, imaging, positioning... etc., etc., etc. - "it's all good."  

 

The PS500's have this big, live sound, with weighty bass slam, with clarity and detail you won't believe... and with all the "live cues" (e.g. buzz of the guitar amps, squeek of the fingers on the steel strings, the vibration of the strings, and all the rest)!   They really improve the sound of live blues rock.

 

If you are an SRV fan... you're gonna want to hear him with these phones (or I suppose the PS1000's, which I'll have on Tuesday)!

 

i'm just curious,are the PS1000 going to replace you're PS500,or do you plan on keeping both?

post #937 of 1170
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

 

i'm just curious,are the PS1000 going to replace you're PS500,or do you plan on keeping both?

 

Don't know yet... 

 

I haven't heard the PS1000's - so I have no idea how they will compare to my other phones... other than through the reviews / comments of others who have.  

 

So... we'll have to see...

post #938 of 1170
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post

And... for those Stevie Ray Vaughn fans... the PS500's are truly amazing!

 

I've never been a "big fan"... but... listening just now to his album "The Sky Is Crying" - I may just have become a fan.  

 

The PS500's are a "match made in...." with his guitar and band - they "round off the edges" a wee bit, and provide all the clarity, detail and resolution you'll ever want!  Tone, tenor and texture are spot on... or, so it seems to me.  Everything just has a "live" sound - the ambience, soundstage, imaging, positioning... etc., etc., etc. - "it's all good."  

 

The PS500's have this big, live sound, with weighty bass slam, with clarity and detail you won't believe... and with all the "live cues" (e.g. buzz of the guitar amps, squeek of the fingers on the steel strings, the vibration of the strings, and all the rest)!   They really improve the sound of live blues rock.

 

If you are an SRV fan... you're gonna want to hear him with these phones (or I suppose the PS1000's, which I'll have on Tuesday)!

 

You are correct - this is the one for SRV! I've been listening to lots of genres from my collection and the PS500 excels with almost everything I try, and with "blues rock" they are truly incredible. I just heard a Derek Trucks track that absolutely kills with these cans! I am using a vintage RCA black plate 12ax7 in my amp and can't believe the soundstage and detail with the Grados. I have to say the PS500 is quite the "spoiler" since I don't  think I want to hear my HD598 or AKG Q701 now - and I have been very fond of those. 

post #939 of 1170
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Originally Posted by desertblues View Post

 I have to say the PS500 is quite the "spoiler" since I don't  think I want to hear my HD598 or AKG Q701 now - and I have been very fond of those. 

Agree.  I ditched the HD598's and Q701's several months ago.  They just couldn't "cut the mustard".

post #940 of 1170
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Originally Posted by desertblues View Post

 

You are correct - this is the one for SRV! I've been listening to lots of genres from my collection and the PS500 excels with almost everything I try, and with "blues rock" they are truly incredible. I just heard a Derek Trucks track that absolutely kills with these cans! I am using a vintage RCA black plate 12ax7 in my amp and can't believe the soundstage and detail with the Grados. I have to say the PS500 is quite the "spoiler" since I don't  think I want to hear my HD598 or AKG Q701 now - and I have been very fond of those. 

 

I'm not suprised you feel that way,i find that the PS500 have a very compelling sound that's easy to fall in love with,plus at the price they're selling,you still get a lot of sound quality for you're money,a smart buy for sure.

post #941 of 1170
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post

And... for those Stevie Ray Vaughn fans... the PS500's are truly amazing!

 

I've never been a "big fan"... but... listening just now to his album "The Sky Is Crying" - I may just have become a fan.  

 

The PS500's are a "match made in...." with his guitar and band - they "round off the edges" a wee bit, and provide all the clarity, detail and resolution you'll ever want!  Tone, tenor and texture are spot on... or, so it seems to me.  Everything just has a "live" sound - the ambience, soundstage, imaging, positioning... etc., etc., etc. - "it's all good."  

 

The PS500's have this big, live sound, with weighty bass slam, with clarity and detail you won't believe... and with all the "live cues" (e.g. buzz of the guitar amps, squeek of the fingers on the steel strings, the vibration of the strings, and all the rest)!   They really improve the sound of live blues rock.

 

If you are an SRV fan... you're gonna want to hear him with these phones (or I suppose the PS1000's, which I'll have on Tuesday)!

 

And... the PS1000's add just a bit more realism to all of it.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/530965/grado-fan-club/3512#post_8488095

 

Though... I think I like the PS500's about as well for SRV and similar sounds.  The PS1000's provide a more resolved and complex sound, which you really don't need for rock and blues.  

 

The PS500's are probably 85%+ of the sound of the PS1000's, at a third the price - a huge value!  Though, at the price I got my PS1000's, my PS500's were about half the price, which makes the PS1000's a pretty good value also.  I really think the PS500's are the "sweet spot" of all the Grados - certainly for rock and blues.   


Edited by Gradofan2 - 6/27/12 at 2:39pm
post #942 of 1170
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 View Post

  I really think the PS500's are the "sweet spot" of all the Grados - certainly for rock and blues. 

 

which makes me wonder how they compare to rs-2s, an oft neglected phone on this forum. it's often assumed to be inferior to the rs-1 but there are a number of folks who prefer the rs2 to the rs1, and others who consider it to offer a valid alternate, and not worse, sound. it can have a very gritty, balsy sound with bluesy rock!

post #943 of 1170

Well... once again... I'm impressed with the "real live" sound of the PS500's... as I listen to SRV's "The Sky is Crying" - just incredible!

 

But... this time... I'm listening to it via:   iPod Touch 4 > Pure i20 Dock > Monarchy M24 Tube DAC > WA6 SEm > PS500's.  Superb sound via this simple digital to analog "music server."   The Pure i20 Dock DAC, sounds about as good, but with just a little less richness, weight and warmth, which the M24 Tube DAC provides.  

 

I got this set up to "experiment" with the "music server" concept with the setup recommended by Red Wine Audio, as that likely to be the most practical way to "experiment" with a great set up, which would have optimum sound, without the potential "sonic artifacts" of PC EMI and hard drive noise (uses a SSD).  

 

And... it does sound identical to the original CD, using Apple Lossless (ALAC) files.  I experimented with WAV, AIFF, ALAC, and AAC (compressed at 320 b/sec).  The uncompressed formats and lossless formats sounded identical to the WAV files on the source CD.  And... the AAC files (at 320 b/s) sounded virtually identical, also - perhaps, with a very slightly detectable lower resolution (most noticeable in  the shimmer of the highs, and soundstage).  I'll likely use ALAC for my library on the iPod.  Though, I could probably use AAC and never really notice the difference - desirable, because it would allow me to get 3 times as many files on my 32G iPod, which will only hold about 150 CD's (at 12 tracks per CD at 15 Meg / Track at the 27 Gig iPod 32 capacity) - 450 CD's with AAC vs 150 CD's with ALAC.

 

This combo now allows me to take my music libray with me, whether via my home system, or my car audio system, or my portable system - with virtually the same sound quality in each set up.  Very convenient.  And... the Pure i20 Dock allows me to easily hook up my source with my other audio systems via Toslink, or Digital Coax, or Analog RCA cables.  Very hard to beat at only $99.   

 

And... even better... the iPod Touch, then allows me access the WWW via any WiFi hotspot!

 

When coupled with the PS500's... "it's about as good as it gets!"  

 

Get yourself some of the best phones available (PS500's with the sound of "real, live music")... and an iPod Touch with the Pure i20 Dock - the combo is very hard to beat in all respects!


Edited by Gradofan2 - 7/11/12 at 11:56am
post #944 of 1170

And... the DAC in the Pure i20 iPod Dock is pretty great too.

 

Very, very clear, detailed, dynamic, spacious, etc. when in this configuration:   

 

SRV's "Blues At Sunrise" ALAC file >> iPod Touch 4G >> Pure i20 >> Silver RCA Interconnects >> WA6 SEm >> Grado PS1000's or PS500's >> Audio Nirvana...!!!

 

You really have to try this...

post #945 of 1170

85% of the PS1000 you say? Someone said the same thing in another review. That's awesome.

 

Friday cannot come soon enough with these cans. And I'm picking up an old Pioneer Elite CD/SACD player with a DAC built in for 65 bucks.

 

I love bass, and these seem to be the best Grado's to deliver it, or so I hope.

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