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Grado PS500s (new Grado's)
Sep 10, 2011 at 9:22 PM Post #106 of 1,221
I seem to recall when the HF2 first came out Jude (I think it was him) claiming it sounded like a baby PS1000. If it is true the PS500 is also a "baby" PS1000, then I would think the HF2 and PS500 may sound pretty similar. Am I off base with that train of thought? Especially given their almost identical look?
 
Sep 10, 2011 at 10:04 PM Post #107 of 1,221


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vcoheda said:
i'm sure like current grados, the PS500 will have terrible build quality and average sound and, most importantly, offer nothing new or different over recent models.
 
if you want a grado, buy a used RS1 (older version). other than the HP1 and PS1, there is nothing better.
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I am so in line with your post. I like Grados (owned the sr80i, 325is, rs1i) but any Grado over $250 is overspent IMO. That might be true for 95% of headphones now that I think about it.
 
Sep 10, 2011 at 10:04 PM Post #108 of 1,221


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baka1969 said:
I seem to recall when the HF2 first came out Jude (I think it was him) claiming it sounded like a baby PS1000. If it is true the PS500 is also a "baby" PS1000, then I would think the HF2 and PS500 may sound pretty similar. Am I off base with that train of thought? Especially given their almost identical look?
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That's what I am worry about, I don't mind it sounds similar to HF2, but I wish it don't have too much treble roll-off and muddy bass.
 
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 12:34 AM Post #109 of 1,221


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buffalowings said:
IMO, the sr325 is a scam, why? because it appears that grado added the aluminum cups for better/different sound from the 225, but the aluminum cups dont actually play a part in the sound, why? because within the phones, there is another plastic section that covers the whole exposed aluminum pieces, thus, the aluminum never even played a part in the sound because the sound waves bounce off the inner plastic enclosure instead (no, I'm not talking about the plastic section that contains the driver, there is another plastic piece completely covering the insides of the aluminum cups so i am convinced that the difference is all about the driver selection versus construction differences. also, when i compared the 325 with my 80, I could barely tell the difference between the two. as you go up the grado lineup, you'll quickly find that they sound very close to each other, heck, I doubt anybody can actually tell the difference through blind testing 
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When I woodied my 225's, and was getting ready to partially liberate the 225 drivers from their plastic housing, I discovered the same thing about my 225's. I wasnt aware this was something Grado did with their 225's, so it kind of surprised me.
 

 
 
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buffalowings said:
being middle aged (extremely bitter and angry over my failure of a life) , I have no interest in justin bieber...I'd rather listen to a fellow slightly to overweight middleaged male (possibly even 50-60 years old, age means credibility right?...right?
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Absolutely.
 
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baka1969 said:
I seem to recall when the HF2 first came out Jude (I think it was him) claiming it sounded like a baby PS1000. If it is true the PS500 is also a "baby" PS1000, then I would think the HF2 and PS500 may sound pretty similar. Am I off base with that train of thought? Especially given their almost identical look?
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Makes sense to me.
 


 
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 1:16 AM Post #110 of 1,221
Looking at Grado's website the frequency response for the new PS500 at 14-29 is almost identical to RS2i at 14-28.
 
Just noticed another headphone with the same name "Phiaton PS 500" c'mon, people could have use a bit of Google common sense to try and come up with an original name at least.
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 1:21 AM Post #112 of 1,221
 
As AC/DC would say :-
 
' Who Made Who? '
 

 
 

 
Sep 11, 2011 at 1:25 AM Post #113 of 1,221
Everytime a new Grado product is released, it's basically a field day for all the Grado haters and skeptics...lol
It's fun watching them working up a collective nervous breakdown...more please!!!
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 2:52 AM Post #116 of 1,221
Surely you'd want your American friend to listen to them first to make sure they weren't DOA right? 
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Sep 11, 2011 at 3:15 AM Post #117 of 1,221
subscribed!
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 3:15 AM Post #118 of 1,221
I've heard most of the Grado line-up (including discontinued headphones like the HP2 and PS1) with the only exceptions of the SR125 and RS2, and honestly I'd be surprised if the PS500 really offered anything new sonically. Yes and I've heard both the HF1 and HF2. Unlike other brands like AKG, Sennheiser, and Audio-Technica, I see Grado's current product line-up (7 of which I've heard) as mere, slight variations on a theme and offering nothing truly unique between models. And after seeing the pics of their factory in Brooklyn (search the site for the pics) plus how they managed the HF2 debacle (the "Head-F1" issue and the Head-Fi reaction to it), I lost all respect for them.
 
IMO, the folks getting excited over this headphone are most likely setting themselves up for disappointment.
 
I'll find out soon for myself though when I get to listen to them at CanJam@RMAF.
 
I also want to remind folks that Grado hasn't supported a single Head-Fi National Meet since the first one in 2006, and they consistently never support any NYC-area meets either. What makes anyone think that they seriously developed a new driver for this PS500? If they had the time & money for that kind of R&D, they could've used that towards supporting Head-Fi.
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 3:32 AM Post #119 of 1,221


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asr said:
I've heard most of the Grado line-up (including discontinued headphones like the HP2 and PS1) with the only exceptions of the SR125 and RS2, and honestly I'd be surprised if the PS500 really offered anything new sonically. Yes and I've heard both the HF1 and HF2. Unlike other brands like AKG, Sennheiser, and Audio-Technica, I see Grado's current product line-up (7 of which I've heard) as mere, slight variations on a theme and offering nothing truly unique between models. And after seeing the pics of their factory in Brooklyn (search the site for the pics) plus how they managed the HF2 debacle (the "Head-F1" issue and the Head-Fi reaction to it), I lost all respect for them.
 
IMO, the folks getting excited over this headphone are most likely setting themselves up for disappointment.
 
I'll find out soon for myself though when I get to listen to them at CanJam@RMAF.
 
I also want to remind folks that Grado hasn't supported a single Head-Fi National Meet since the first one in 2006, and they consistently never support any NYC-area meets either. What makes anyone think that they seriously developed a new driver for this PS500? If they had the time & money for that kind of R&D, they could've used that towards supporting Head-Fi.
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Hmmm, that is consistent with what transpired at a recent Melbourne Head-Fi meet.
We managed to host it at the premise of a new retailer who will be offering much
needed equipment on the Australia market. Ultimate Ears showed up with their IEMS,
as did the Australian branch of Jaben (Singapore / Malaysia)
 
Audiophile who is in Melbourne (Sole Grado distributor in all of Australia) was contacted but the proposal fell on dear ears.
 
Shame.
 
 
 
Sep 11, 2011 at 3:44 AM Post #120 of 1,221
I agree, Asr. I've turned skeptical about Grado. You can only rehash the same thing so many times.

I think Grado is making a business mistake by not attending meets. It'd be nice to see Grado sponsor meets and buy a room or table, but that isn't necessary. Just show up, shake hands and spend time talking to members. Most manufacturers do. Spending 30 minutes discussing design, production, etc. with someone does wonders for PR and generates interest. Not saying that Grado has to, but this is a small community and a personal effort pays off.

And, no, I'm not a hater. I kept the HP-2 because it's wonderful and I have a HF-1 and HF-2 around. I like them.
 
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