Audio-gd Master-5/6/8 balanced head amp/ preamp - Page 32

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect 

Nice, Soup. Kingwa says it's a better pre than the M8, which is getting high marks from those here using is with speakers. Should be a great time ahead for you. Those speakers burning in nicely for you?

 

-Daniel

Thats the reason i went with it. I was thinking someday i might have to get back into headphones, so i could spend the extra 200 bucks for the 8 instead of the 1, but i didnt want to take any hit on the pre amp sound quality at all. And ill have a ACSS rig end to end at least for the digital side, running a NFB 1.32 as a dac. I still think kingwa should make an ACSS balanced phono stage but i guess it isnt meant to be.

I think most of the major changes have occured already to their sound, they sound really really nice. Though i havent been able to listen at all for the last week or so, since i sold my D2 to fund the turntable/Master 1 purchase. getting antsy waiting for the master 1 to arrive so i can start listening again. Since before i was running the D2 straight into the Master 3, i didnt need a pre, but with the turntable now, i needed one, which just made getting the table that much more money haha

Edit: yeah people have been saying that his headphone amps make better preamps for quite a while now, even back in the pheonix days people said it wasnt a bad headphone amp, but that it was a state of the art pre amp, im pretty excited about it.

Nice. If you get back into headphones, there are numerous people here who are getting great quality from speaker outs of various amps. I'd suggest an ortho or 300Ohm+ cans with what you have before deciding if you need a seperate headphone amp imo.

Quick question: Would there be any forseeable problems using the M8 as a pre to my Leviathan (6-8 watts @ 8ohm) down the line? It will be an integrated, but would love to try the combo sometime I'm sure. It's just that you always hear of tube preamps to ss amps, but not the other way around-just wondering if there's any issues?

-Daniel

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect 

Nice. If you get back into headphones, there are numerous people here who are getting great quality from speaker outs of various amps. I'd suggest an ortho or 300Ohm+ cans with what you have before deciding if you need a seperate headphone amp imo.

If i get back into headphones, itll be a pair of HD800s, and if thats the case, i think i would just make adaptors and run them off the XLR outputs on the back of the Master 1, sure it wouldnt be quite as good as the headphone out of the master 8, but as i said before, id rather than State of the Art pre with slighter lesser(for high impedance cans) headphone performance, than the other way around.

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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva 

If i get back into headphones, itll be a pair of HD800s, and if thats the case, i think i would just make adaptors and run them off the XLR outputs on the back of the Master 1, sure it wouldnt be quite as good as the headphone out of the master 8, but as i said before, id rather than State of the Art pre with slighter lesser(for high impedance cans) headphone performance, than the other way around.

Using XLR pre out to feed a HD800?

As I have understood it, a high impedance headphone should have a lot of voltage swing (20-30 Volts) and the pre out won't have that - or am I wrong?

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Originally Posted by LarsHP 

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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva 

If i get back into headphones, itll be a pair of HD800s, and if thats the case, i think i would just make adaptors and run them off the XLR outputs on the back of the Master 1, sure it wouldnt be quite as good as the headphone out of the master 8, but as i said before, id rather than State of the Art pre with slighter lesser(for high impedance cans) headphone performance, than the other way around.

Using XLR pre out to feed a HD800?

As I have understood it, a high impedance headphone should have a lot of voltage swing (20-30 Volts) and the pre out won't have that - or am I wrong?

Eh, the Master 1 can swing 19 volts out of its XLR pre outs, and its output impedance is only 10 ohms, it may not be quite as good as a master 8 would be, but im sure it would work just fine, specially considering the power supplies that kingwa always puts in his gear. Not to mention this is a pretty hypothetical situation, i dont anticipate actually doing it

Well it outputs 19V off  the XLRs. But I was refering to conecting the HD800 off of the speaker taps of the Master 3. Either or I guess.

-Daniel

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect 

Well it outputs 19V off  the XLRs. But I was refering to conecting the HD800 off of the speaker taps of the Master 3. Either or I guess.

 

-Daniel

i actually ran a set of HD800s off the Master 3 at a meet a couple weeks ago. Worked pretty well, but i bet that running them off the xlr outs of the pre would sound better. but again i doubt i will ever actually do either, im gonna be trying my darndest to not move in anywhere that i cant use my speakers.

So my master 1 arrived today, and while i have no sources to plug into it currently, the thing is a work of beauty, and as a preamp it weighs more than most power amps do these days, what a monster!