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post #571 of 876
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Originally Posted by lmswjm View Post
 

I couldn't resist bugging Kingwa about sonic improvements over my Master 6:

 

Dear Bill,
The Master 9 is pure class A amp.
Its sound is a little richer on low and mid  .
In my mind the Master 6 don't want upgrade to the Master 9, the different not much, but the used master 6 sale price is much different to the new Master 9.
Kingwa


Thanks! I really like to hear that ...

post #572 of 876

How is the HE-6 with the Master 6/8/9?

 

Can it drive it to potential?

post #573 of 876
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

How is the HE-6 with the Master 6/8/9?

Can it drive it to potential?

With acss input my master 6 would clip. Better off with a speaker amp or the precision 1 imo.
post #574 of 876
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Originally Posted by drez View Post


With acss input my master 6 would clip. Better off with a speaker amp or the precision 1 imo.

 

Really!

 

I could not get mine to clip even if I try.

 

On some recordings that have a low output I have got to 60-65 out of 70, which is too loud to listen to for more than a few minutes (at most, often a few seconds) and there is absolutely no sign of clipping. In fact it shows no sighs of stress at all at anywhere near max output.

 

You must listen very loud!

post #575 of 876

He's probably using the exponencial volume control that adds 6dB, that might explain the clipping.

post #576 of 876
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

Really!

I could not get mine to clip even if I try.

On some recordings that have a low output I have got to 60-65 out of 70, which is too loud to listen to for more than a few minutes (at most, often a few seconds) and there is absolutely no sign of clipping. In fact it shows no sighs of stress at all at anywhere near max output.

You must listen very loud!

Would happen to me on certain tracks even dynamically compressed ones. Hannibal soundtrack seemed to trigger it. I don't play very loud, I'm not sure why it clipped, just that it doesn't clip with hd800.
post #577 of 876
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Originally Posted by drez View Post


Would happen to me on certain tracks even dynamically compressed ones. Hannibal soundtrack seemed to trigger it. I don't play very loud, I'm not sure why it clipped, just that it doesn't clip with hd800.

 

Did you try using XLR connections on the same tracks?

 

The output is higher on XLR so lower volume would be required.

post #578 of 876

I have never had my HE-6 clip with my Master 6 regardless of input path...

Master 6 seems to have almost limitless power.

 

For the HE-6 to clip with 7 Watts you are exceeding at least 115dB (if you are conservative and use the measurement from Inner Fidelity) or even 121dB (if you go by HiFiMan's spec's). That's incredibly loud. 

 

Even with my Burson Soloist which only gives about 1.7 Watts in 50 Ohm, I have never heard any clipping.

 

If you get (got?) clipping with Master 6, then I would expect that either something's not right with the amp - or that you listen at extremely, ear-damaging loud levels.

post #579 of 876
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

How is the HE-6 with the Master 6/8/9?

 

Can it drive it to potential?


In my opinion the answer is a BIG yes.

 

Master 5 is much lower powered, and would probably still be nice, but might not have the headroom or power to blast your ears :veryevil:

post #580 of 876

Hello I am Frans from the Netherlands and new to this forum although I read the forum every day :bigsmile_face:

 

Maybe you guys can help me out.

 

Last year I started with my hobby again. I bought an Violectric v200, an Audio GD Reference DAC and a Denon D7000.

 

I am planning to buy a Master 8 or 9 by Christmas.

 

I wonder however of the Master 8 or 9 (Class A :tongue_smile:) can drive the Denon (25 ohm) or simply blow it up.

 

Hope to hear from you and sorry for my terrible English in advance.

post #581 of 876

Master-8 is discontinued. No it won't blow it up, the master 9's output is 1 ohm if your earphones are more than 10 ohms lol, they should be good. PD: Plus the new Super exponencial volume control should help with more sensitive headphones, though don't think about using iems on it xp


Edited by mowglycdb - 11/5/13 at 5:44am
post #582 of 876

That is great. Thank you for your quick answer :bigsmile_face:

 

I also thought about Icon Audio, but now it will be a Master 9 for sure.

post #583 of 876
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Originally Posted by staalf View Post
 

That is great. Thank you for your quick answer :bigsmile_face:

 

I also thought about Icon Audio, but now it will be a Master 9 for sure.

Wow, I'm considering Master 9 too...

post #584 of 876
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Originally Posted by joyway View Post
 

Wow, I'm considering Master 9 too...


I heard the Master 5 in the Netherlands in the house of another forum member. It was a whole new world for me. If the Master 9 is the same league or better, then I will be extremely happy.

I heave to wait till Christmas gratification though.

post #585 of 876

Slightly better as stated from king-wa  richer in the mid a lower band, with headphone out and XLR/RCA and the same out of the ACSS conection.


Edited by mowglycdb - 11/5/13 at 6:57am
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