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post #1 of 14
9/8/11 at 2:27am
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i just bought some Bayerdynamic T1 600ohms i think the amp i have on my sound card is not enough that a xonar xense i have options to set it at 300ohms - 600ohms but maybe thats is not realy ''real'' in terms of capability but anyways i look for an external Amp there is one that is interesting to me The: WooAudio 3 - Single-Ended OTL, Class A Vacuum Tube Headphone & Pre Amplifier

it is cheap and i heard good things and im looking too buy this one with the upgrade Tube on their website (im new to this) and im looking too use this amp with my Pc would it be good?

 

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post #2 of 14
9/8/11 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by bayerty View Post

i just bought some Bayerdynamic T1 600ohms i think the amp i have on my sound card is not enough that a xonar xense i have options to set it at 300ohms - 600ohms but maybe thats is not realy ''real'' in terms of capability but anyways i look for an external Amp there is one that is interesting to me The: WooAudio 3 - Single-Ended OTL, Class A Vacuum Tube Headphone & Pre Amplifier

it is cheap and i heard good things and im looking too buy this one with the upgrade Tube on their website (im new to this) and im looking too use this amp with my Pc would it be good?

 

thanks for further reply 


I think a pretty affordable option would be a Schiit Bifrost Dac with a Schiit Valhalla or Lyr amp.

 

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post #3 of 14
9/8/11 at 3:32am
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:O very interesting but the DAC is only preorder for now till 30september and i dont mind putting little more on DAC too have it now or have better 

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post #4 of 14
9/8/11 at 4:38am
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:O very interesting but the DAC is only preorder for now till 30september and i dont mind putting little more on DAC too have it now or have better 


If you dont mind waiting, the upcoming Schiit "Statement" Dac is probabaly going to be amazing (better than things costing 5 or more times more). If not, the Benchmark Dac 1 is a great is somewhat sterile choice, you can pair it with a nice tube amp like the valahalla for some warmth. If budget permits, the woo audio wa 22 and wa5 are also great with the T1 in my experience.

 

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post #5 of 14
9/8/11 at 5:17am
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do i need a DAC or can i buy some high grade RCA plug into the AMP and use a 1/4jack to RCA to plug in my Sound card

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post #6 of 14
9/8/11 at 1:01pm
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If you dont mind waiting, the upcoming Schiit "Statement" Dac is probabaly going to be amazing (better than things costing 5 or more times more). If not, the Benchmark Dac 1 is a great is somewhat sterile choice, you can pair it with a nice tube amp like the valahalla for some warmth. If budget permits, the woo audio wa 22 and wa5 are also great with the T1 in my experience.

 

You just jumped from a $350 DAC to a >$1000 DAC. Slow your roll there cowboy. A great middle option would be something like an Audio-GD or Matrix Quattro.

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post #7 of 14
9/8/11 at 9:35pm
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in the description of the Matrix quattro they say it can take up to 300ohms my headphone are 600ohms :S

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post #8 of 14
9/9/11 at 1:32am
Try searching some of the T1 threads for the amps that T1 owners use.
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post #9 of 14
9/10/11 at 12:30pm
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You just jumped from a $350 DAC to a >$1000 DAC. Slow your roll there cowboy. A great middle option would be something like an Audio-GD or Matrix Quattro.



Haha, yup. Thought the op would'nt mind, since its for a >$1000 headphone.

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post #10 of 14
9/10/11 at 9:32pm
With high impedance headphones, the best way to go is probably an OTL from Woo. You should also consider Decware or a Bottlehead. I see a lot of Schit amps for sale, which leaves me wondering why.

FWIW, my re-built Singlepower Extreme, an OTL amp, sounds significantly better than my Woo 22, a transformer coupled balanced design, or the Luxman P1-u, a solid state amp I used to own. There is a harmonic richness from the OTL Singlepower that I just don't hear from the other amps I have owned. I know that Kevin Gilmore has lobbied Woo to built an OTL using the same schematic as the Extreme but Jack is not interested.

If you really want to stretch your budget, a used Eddie Cuurent Zana Deux is for sale on Audiogon for at a decent price. (I have no affiliation with the seller.)
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post #11 of 14
9/10/11 at 10:40pm
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I see a lot of Schit amps for sale, which leaves me wondering why.


Relative to other amps, it's not horribly expensive, which means upgrade-itis is on the high side.  Plus, they probably sell a lot which means some are going to trickle out.  On top of all that, expensive gear usually gets thrown on Audiogon.


Is that a good answer?

 

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post #12 of 14
9/11/11 at 2:46am
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With high impedance headphones, the best way to go is probably an OTL from Woo. You should also consider Decware or a Bottlehead. I see a lot of Schit amps for sale, which leaves me wondering why.

FWIW, my re-built Singlepower Extreme, an OTL amp, sounds significantly better than my Woo 22, a transformer coupled balanced design, or the Luxman P1-u, a solid state amp I used to own. There is a harmonic richness from the OTL Singlepower that I just don't hear from the other amps I have owned. I know that Kevin Gilmore has lobbied Woo to built an OTL using the same schematic as the Extreme but Jack is not interested.

If you really want to stretch your budget, a used Eddie Cuurent Zana Deux is for sale on Audiogon for at a decent price. (I have no affiliation with the seller.)


Yup, good points. Woo stuff is pretty darn good and is built beautifully, but is pretty pricey and may not be best bang for buck.

 

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post #13 of 14
9/11/11 at 4:01am
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yea but i heard great things about the Woo amp in general

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post #14 of 14
9/11/11 at 4:02am
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thanks for that reply i will go for the Woo i think Schiit and Woo where the two brand that im interest in.

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