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My new Thunderpants are going to have the best bass.

post #47 of 87
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Awesome dudes.

 

I tell you, I know the whole debate on burn-in and whatnot.  After letting these Ultrasones burn in for a week they have gotten a lot better.

 

I do believe a large role in burn-in is psychological.  Especially for music buffs like us.  Listen to something for long enough and it will start to sound good.  I remember one summer I was on vacation and the whole summer I was rocking out to an ipod shuffle with $15 phillips vented earbuds.  Coming from my home system it was a major shock, but after a few weeks I was rocking those badboys.  But one thing that is definitely physically different on these Ultrasone are the drivers are loosening up.  I couldn't crank them very high at all without the drivers clipping, and now I'm able to almost go about 80% load on my amp.  These 580s aren't going to do it for me that much I know for sure, possibly the 900s will when they come this week, we shall see, though I'll have to let them burn in before I judge.

 

So far two more things I've learned are I definitely prefer open back cans, and midrange that isn't recessed.

 

So maybe some DT880s could fit the ticket.

 

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Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/11/11 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by WaveRider69 View Post

Awesome dudes.

 

I tell you, I know the whole debate on burn-in and whatnot.  After letting these Ultrasones burn in for a week they have gotten a lot better.

 

I do believe a large role in burn-in is psychological.  Especially for music buffs like us.  Listen to something for long enough and it will start to sound good.  I remember one summer I was on vacation and the whole summer I was rocking out to an ipod shuffle with $15 phillips earbuds.  Coming from my home system it was a major shock, but after a few weeks I was rocking those badboys.  But one thing that is definitely physically different on these Ultrasone are the drivers are loosening up.  I couldn't crank them very high at all without the drivers clipping, and now I'm able to almost go about 80% load on my amp.  These 580s aren't going to do it for me that much I know for sure, possibly the 900s will when they come this week, we shall see, though I'll have to let them burn in before I judge.

 

So far two more things I've learned are I definitely prefer open back cans, and midrange that isn't recessed.

 

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Doesn't match my experience in anyway. How are you using the equalizer? The HFI-580 simply do not clip that easily. Stop adding gain on frequencies if you are.

 

post #49 of 87
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Here's my current EQ settings.  Some of you guys will probably think this is nuts, but remember what system I'm coming from.  I simply do not enjoy listening to headphones with a flat EQ they sound way too bright and fatiguing, I might as well be hanging some midrange drivers over my ears.  :D

 

That's my Rock setting, the HipHop/EDM looks a bit different.

 

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Doesn't match my experience in anyway. How are you using the equalizer? The HFI-580 simply do not clip that easily. Stop adding gain on frequencies if you are.

 



 


Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/11/11 at 5:46pm
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Here's my current EQ settings.  Some of you guys will probably think this is nuts, but remember what system I'm coming from.  I simply do not enjoy listening to headphones with a flat EQ they sound way too bright and fatiguing, I might as well be hanging some midrange drivers over my ears.  :D

 

That's my Rock setting, the HipHop/EDM looks a bit different.

 

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WOW. Ok either you need to lower the pre-amp by 23 db or you need to completely do the opposite of what you're doing and just LOWER frequencies if you are using linear phase. I also think you would be clipping your amp if it's not powerful. There is no doubt in my mind that the HFI-580 can handle a lot of bass, but I doubt your amplifier can without clipping in trying to bring the volume back up. The Cowon mp3 players would do just fine however.

 


Edited by wind016 - 9/11/11 at 6:01pm
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Well the preamp is lowered by 27.  Usually it's at -30 just to keep it safe until I find my sweet spot since I'm always messing around with it.  Right now I'm using the AUNE hifidiy.net DAC/AMP and can go almost up to 80% volume on that EQ setting with no clipping and it sounds pretty awesome :D


Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/11/11 at 6:06pm
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Well the preamp is lowered by 27.  Usually it's at -30 just to keep it safe until I find my sweet spot since I'm always messing around with it.  Right now I'm using the AUNE hifidiy.net DAC/AMP and can go almost up to 80% volume on that EQ setting with no clipping and it sounds pretty awesome :D


That's good, but I thought you said it was clipping.

 

If the HFI-580 doesn't do it for you for bass, I'm not sure the PRO 900s will. It didn't for me. The PROs' bass are less impactful but more spacious.


Edited by wind016 - 9/11/11 at 6:10pm
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It was when I first got them.  I couldn't go over 50%+/- volume.  But after burn-in they aren't anymore.  :)

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It was when I first got them.  But after burn-in they aren't anymore.  :)


If you want some crazy bass, a Cowon would be the ultimate basshead player IMO. =)  I have yet to try the ZO personal amp though which I hear is excellent.

 

post #55 of 87
Most of the headphones mentioned are audiophile phones or at least intended to be somewhat. I would recommend a DJ phone like the AKG K181 ($130). Once I finally received mine I realized my search for club like bass with real natural presentation and realistic treble was over. It has the most club like bass I've heard so far. It does this with solid mids and some of the cleanest treble out of the phones I have. My AKGs are now my favorite cans. Better than my D2000 $350 (w/better bass and non sibilant highs), ATH M50s $150( same story) , and completely crushes my V6s $60 (v6s have good detail but not much low end force to speak of). these cans need proper power and to fully realize the power these can can produce you will need a good amp. The CMoy BB from JDS Labs ($65 delivered) is a good recommendation. It has a bass boost function that really pumps the low end to big club proportions. Best results with hip hop, rap, electronica, dub, rock, and others. Unbelievable value.
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If the HFI-580 doesn't do it for you for bass, I'm not sure the PRO 900s will. It didn't for me. The PROs' bass are less impactful but more spacious.


Yeah man part of me has been recently expecting this, glad to see some input on it.  Should be fun to play with for a bit either way though :D  Have you found more preferable cans yet?

 

btw, that Cowon looks pretty sweet, I see you guys keep mentioning that.  I may just have to check that out.  Would that work on a PC system though, it looks like it would be a good portable player..  which I may be in the market for soon.

 


Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/12/11 at 8:35am
post #57 of 87
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Originally Posted by musubi1000 View Post

Most of the headphones mentioned are audiophile phones or at least intended to be somewhat. I would recommend a DJ phone like the AKG K181 ($130). Once I finally received mine I realized my search for club like bass with real natural presentation and realistic treble was over. It has the most club like bass I've heard so far. It does this with solid mids and some of the cleanest treble out of the phones I have. My AKGs are now my favorite cans. Better than my D2000 $350 (w/better bass and non sibilant highs), ATH M50s $150( same story) , and completely crushes my V6s $60 (v6s have good detail but not much low end force to speak of). these cans need proper power and to fully realize the power these can can produce you will need a good amp. The CMoy BB from JDS Labs ($65 delivered) is a good recommendation. It has a bass boost function that really pumps the low end to big club proportions. Best results with hip hop, rap, electronica, dub, rock, and others. Unbelievable value.


Awesome man!  You sold me, I'm going to put these next on my list.  Appreciate the input man :D

 

post #58 of 87
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My PRO900s are here.  From my previous learnings of the 580s I'm going to let them break in for a week before I even listen to them.

 

In the mean time call me crazy but part of me has been thinking I may have been looking in the wrong direction.  A lot of these Audiophile headphones are used for musicians and producers that need perfect balanced flat crystal clear sound.  That doesn't always mean they are fun to listen to.

 

So on that note I ordered a pair of JVC HA-M5X just for kicks as mentioned by someone in this thread.  I have these hooked up to my amp using the same EQ settings as before and so far these headphones have the MOST BASS I've heard in a headphone.  They destroy the HFI-580 & DT990 like a ragdoll fighting a grizzly bear.  There is just so much Grunt and they get loud without clipping.  I think a key part here is the drivers are of course large but also are looser.  Where as many of the high quality cans have very tight drivers for accuracy and perfection, leaving not much room for loud slamming bass.

 

Without stating the obvious they aren't on the same quality level and they are even pretty cheaply made.  But ****, I can crank these badboys LOUD and get pounded with bass and get no headache because of the lack of sibilance.

 

Anyway just fooling around with stuff :D  Will keep trying more phones just for kicks, this is fun L3000.gif


Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/14/11 at 2:43pm
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My PRO900s are here.  From my previous learnings of the 580s I'm going to let them break in for a week before I even listen to them.

 

There is just so much Grunt and they get loud without clipping.


Break in won't do much. I think you're clipping your amp.

 

post #60 of 87
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Why do you think that?  I have the preamp set below the total gain output.  The clipping is the sound of the drivers over extending (you know the popping sound when you push them hard) and not the typical amp distortion people are familiar with.  I know the difference.  I am headphone newb but I've been fooling around with car/home/club audio systems since I was a kid.

 

Throw up the low freqs very high on an EQ and lower the preamp.  Then turn up the volume and you will get your drivers popping too.  The Ultrasone drivers are too tight.  I'm doing the exact same setup on these JVC and they are handling it like a champ.  My old ATH-AD700s handled it like a champ too.


Edited by WaveRider69 - 9/14/11 at 2:53pm
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