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A Headphone to complement and be a companion to my Grado RS1

post #1 of 14
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I'm looking to buy a set of headphones that would complement my Grado RS1 but from a different brand.

Basically I want to find another set of headphones that has a different sound signature to the Grado house sound but at the same time has great sound qualities and can be considered as good headphone as a Grado.

 

I love the way my RS1 sounds with Rock music but at times it seems to lack the same qualities when playing Electronic/Dance music. I've been looking at several different options but can't make up my mind which one to get, so if you guys could post your opinions on which headphone to get and why it would be a good complement/companion to my RS1 I'd appreciate.

 

Headphones I've considered so far are Beyer DT880, Senn HD600, ATH W1000, ATH M50, Hifiman HE-300. Advice on Amps to go with the headphone also appreciated. 

 

Thanks

post #2 of 14

JVC DX700 or Beyer DT 770 Pro.

 

I'm almost in the same position as you,

I'm looking for a companion for the 325i

and the AKG K601 does not suit the bill

for electronica.

 

Neither does the M50. I cannot recommend

it, the lack of separation, small soundstage

and 'so-so' bass impact does not make it

a stellar headphone in that sense.

 

The AT Pro700 would be worth a look,

less balanced than the M50 but I

hear the bass impact is more 

substantial.

 

Lastly, the Ultrasone Pro 900

dead set pricey though for

us Aussies at $600AUD.

 

All these headphones should

perform admirably with any

decent solid state amp.


Edited by Gwarmi - 9/7/11 at 6:44am
post #3 of 14

Ultrasone headphones are amazing for these genres music and i will recommend to try Pro 2900. The Sony SA5000 are also very highend headphones with very reasonable price and they sound great for all genres music with AMPs help. The headphones like AD1000, SRH940, HD650, DT990, ES10, Z1000, HFI2400 and AMPs recommended are like Matrix M Stage, Matrix Quattro AMPs and Yulong A100

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

So it seems like M50 is out of the questions, I also read that some people find the Sennheisers dark and veiled which I does not sound good for me either.

 

Is there any difference from DT770 to DT770 PRO or is it the same headphone (sorry if this is a noob question).

 

I've read in other threads about the Sony SA5000 but I'm not sure I want to buy a Sony headphone I don't know why, at the same time don't want to spend $600 on a Ultrasone. 

 

How about the Audio Techinica Woodied series??? These look very nice, don't know if they fit the bill though.

post #5 of 14

I'm going to +1 a pair of Ultrasones. Go with the Pro 900 if you want closed, or Pro 2900 if you want open. 

 

I find them to compliment my Grados quite well. They still retain a forward, aggressive, engaging signature, but have lots more bottom end. Many people think (me included) that they are the definitive headphones for Electronic. 

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by willmax View Post

So it seems like M50 is out of the questions, I also read that some people find the Sennheisers dark and veiled which I does not sound good for me either.

 

Is there any difference from DT770 to DT770 PRO or is it the same headphone (sorry if this is a noob question).

 

I've read in other threads about the Sony SA5000 but I'm not sure I want to buy a Sony headphone I don't know why, at the same time don't want to spend $600 on a Ultrasone. 

 

How about the Audio Techinica Woodied series??? These look very nice, don't know if they fit the bill though.




W1000X I hear is a pretty warm headphone, which brings us back to the HD 650 discussion.

Coming from the RS1, I'd assume you wish to retain all that lively character and sound but with

a  bass presentation that is more suitable for electronic genres.

 

The DT 770 Pro comes in a different shell aimed the rigors of professional use, this is the one

I heard awhile back. The newly revised DT 770 appears to be nothing more than a comfy re-shell

for the home enthusiast but you do pay more for it.

post #7 of 14
Go old-school. Back In The Day, debates here used to rage between the RS-1 and HD-650.
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post

 

Lastly, the Ultrasone Pro 900

dead set pricey though for

us Aussies at $600AUD.

 

All these headphones should

perform admirably with any

decent solid state amp.

 

I was having a look at Amazon website and I think I can get the Pro 900 just under $400 shipped to Australia =), any specific amp to drive it though?
 

Quote:

 

Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

Go old-school. Back In The Day, debates here used to rage between the RS-1 and HD-650.


The other thing that sort of puts me off about the HD-650 is the amping requirements, at the moment I only have a BSG CMoy and a RA1 Clone amp, both work very well with my Grados.

I might be getting a O2 amp in the future but not sure exactly when.

post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by willmax View Post

 

I was having a look at Amazon website and I think I can get the Pro 900 just under $400 shipped to Australia =), any specific amp to drive it though?
 

Quote:

 

Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

Go old-school. Back In The Day, debates here used to rage between the RS-1 and HD-650.


The other thing that sort of puts me off about the HD-650 is the amping requirements, at the moment I only have a BSG CMoy and a RA1 Clone amp, both work very well with my Grados.

I might be getting a O2 amp in the future but not sure exactly when.


$400AUD. That's a great price. Try and get an amp that will cater to

your RS1 too. Both are low impedance at 32ohms for the Grado and

40ohms for the Pro 900.

 

Little Dot 1+ would be a good pairing with the RS1 for little money,

and they should aid in taking the edge off the occasional sibilant

highs from the Pro 900.

 

I-enjoy.com.au can also sort you out with a FiiO E9 for $135 if you

don't want a tube hybrid.

 

Nuforce Icon is a good DAC/amp solution from Marcus at headphones.com.au

for $249 delivered.

 

http://headphones.com.au/pbrowse?catID=2

 

But your current amps should be fine though, depends on if

you want to change.

 


Edited by Gwarmi - 9/9/11 at 7:46am
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

Go old-school. Back In The Day, debates here used to rage between the RS-1 and HD-650.


Yep, and K-701!

 

I think Denon D5000 should be a contender too though, those looks and that impactful presentation are quite impressive and will balance out the Grado in your inventory

post #11 of 14

It's interesting watching how headphones rise and fall in prominence. If a company has a totally uncompetitive price (Grado RS1) it loses popularity - on the other hand, if the company cuts the price too much to be more competitive (AKG K70x) then some audiophiles seem to take it as an admission of failure...

As others have said, the HD650 seems the most natural headphone to complement your Grados.

post #12 of 14

HD650, LCD2, or HE500.

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by Willakan View Post

It's interesting watching how headphones rise and fall in prominence. If a company has a totally uncompetitive price (Grado RS1) it loses popularity - on the other hand, if the company cuts the price too much to be more competitive (AKG K70x) then some audiophiles seem to take it as an admission of failure...

As others have said, the HD650 seems the most natural headphone to complement your Grados.


I think the Grado RS1 headphones are still very popular somehow. 

From what I read here the HD650 are very inefficient cans, ie they have a very strong amping requirements which in turn means I'd have to spend some dough buying an expensive amp.

 

I had never considered a Ultrasone headphone before, but after some people mentioned about the Pro 900 I did some reading into it and it is looking pretty good so far.

 

I have no interest in the LCD2 as it seems to be too heavy and uncomfortable, on the other hand would love to listen to HE-500 but I'm afraid it is a bit too pricey for me as I only intend to spend around $400 bucks tops.

post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hey guys now started considering the Beyer DT990 vs Ultrasone Pro 900, I think I can get the DT990 a bit cheaper than the Pro900.

The Pro is more portable and closed back instead of being open like the DT990. Do I need expensive an amp to drive any of these cans or my current CMoy and RA1 clone would do just fine?

Both look very nice IMO.

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