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post #16 of 25
1/27/04 at 2:32am
Just wanted to say that's one of the most gorgeous cabinet ideas ever. When you finish, you definitely should post pictures!
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post #17 of 25
1/27/04 at 6:56am
Orpheus. I don't get it. Why is it silly to try raising your cables off the ground to try solve a problem that he couldn't solve with power conditioning? I'm not suggesting he spend the money for the elevators. He can use the free tweaks. I'm sure he has some paper cups or coffee mugs around. Separating powercords from interconnects is also a free tweak. If it helps solve his RF problems or lower it how is it silly when his enjoyment out of his system is increased?

Do you know there are good Studios and bad studios? The better one invests in better equipment, plays with better speaker positioning and room acoustics etc.? Studios aren't the last word in enjoyable sound.
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post #18 of 25
1/27/04 at 3:47pm
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Orpheus. I don't get it. Why is it silly to try raising your cables off the ground to try solve a problem that he couldn't solve with power conditioning?
what i meant was that since there are places that have miles of cables in very close proximity to each other, being duct into walls, floors, ceilings and everywhere else... and they don't have noise-floor problems, it is highly unlikely that these cable risers do anything. understand my point?
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Do you know there are good Studios and bad studios? The better one invests in better equipment, plays with better speaker positioning and room acoustics etc.? Studios aren't the last word in enjoyable sound.
yes, of course there are. however, one REALLY bad thing in pro audio is hum and hiss from signal contanimation. and if they can get by with all their audiophile-bad wiring antics, then surely you can do the same without resorting to those cable-riser devices. that's all i'm trying to say.
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post #19 of 25
1/27/04 at 6:26pm
Orpheus, I understand your point now. But Studio do generally have highly shielded equipment. When you are about to plug a RCA cable into the amplifier what happens? It'll generate a hum upon contact. Every little bit helps in audio. And this gentleman's problems are obviously severe enough to warrant trying all kinds of stuff. And trying to separate powercables from interconnects is actually a VERY COMMON thing to do among audiophiles.
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post #20 of 25
1/27/04 at 6:36pm
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But Studio do generally have highly shielded equipment.
it's no more shielded than your own components. same thing--metal boxes. difference is they're all rackmounted.... which actually presents a different problem: it means that the cases of each individual piece is electrically connected to others screwed into the case.... and this sometimes causes hum problems too.

but you don't have to worry about that, cause generally home components are set on rubber feet that would keep components electrically apart.
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And trying to separate powercables from interconnects is actually a VERY COMMON thing to do among audiophiles.
i know.... i try to do that too. cause theoretically it might help. who knows... it's worth i try i guess.

but i don't think you should bother with the cable risers.
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post #21 of 25
1/27/04 at 7:39pm
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Originally posted by tortie
No way mike! Thats Rachael Leigh Cook, BTW im not shown because im under the bubbles

edit: sorry for the OT post
LOL, I thought that was a tube amp on the ledge of the bathtub. I see that it's a PCDP and a toilet and cabinet in the background, not a Tube amp. ALthough, tubes + electricity + water = deep fried.

-Ed
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post #22 of 25
1/27/04 at 10:25pm
Not that this relates to this thread, but my job is to run cables and install all kinds of electronics in all kinds of buildings. Some years ago I did some side work for a "high end audio store" here in Portland. I once went out to this big multi-story house, to run speaker cables. After looking it over, there was no practicle way to make one continuose run of cable for one side of the pair of speakers. It would have to be a cut and splice job for that channel. The salesman (in front of the customer) insisted that any splice in the speaker cable would be audible and ruin the sound. After talking to the salesmanager (the salesguys boss) and agreeing to give up my fee if it did not work, I went ahead with the cut and splice, without the customers or salesguys knowledge.

End result- The sales guy and customer were so happy they (to the best of their knowledge) did not let me make that splice, because the system sounded wonderful!

The splice was a basic solder and tape splice, under a carpet, using 60/40 Kester solder!

Conclusion- The splice was inaudible, because they did not know it was there. If they had known it was there, I am certain they would have "heard it". To me it really demonstrated how our expectations affect what we hear.

edit- added missing period. here are some extras just in case...............
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post #23 of 25
1/27/04 at 11:49pm
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but i don't think you should bother with the cable risers.
I wouldn't recommend it either until all the system components are in place. But like I said paper cups or coffee mugs should be readily available.
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post #24 of 25
1/28/04 at 1:05am
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Originally posted by Edwood
LOL, I thought that was a tube amp on the ledge of the bathtub. I see that it's a PCDP and a toilet and cabinet in the background, not a Tube amp. ALthough, tubes + electricity + water = deep fried.

-Ed
You were right about my avatar with the tube amp. I added a tube amp to the original pic then resized it for my avatar
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post #25 of 25
1/29/04 at 12:19pm
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I have been trying to be a few minutes to post a reply to your comments, but each time I sit down to read them I get interrupted by a call or my kids....

All my cables are suspended in air by the fact that I like shorter runs of cables that are as short as possible to just get from point A to point B. I also do seperate power and IC cables, and run all my components through both a power conditioner as well as an Quantum Electroclear gizmo.

Not that the RF / EMI is all that severe (other than the group of 14 light bulbs in the bathroom that if dimmed run havoc with my system), but hey, if I have the time and ability to do something as a fairly cheap tweak, why not? If I could find a source for some lead sheeting, I think that I would like to go that way as more of a damping device to stabilize my rack. I don't have any sources of copper mesh in hickville USA here, (Yes, I am one too!).

The over all dimensions will only be about 14 inches wide, 16 inches deep, and about 5 feet tall with upper areas for Teac 300 series reference components (CD and tuner), an RKV amp, and a soon a Monarchy mini sized 96mhz/24 bit dac (and maybe a DIP too). Below will be two velvet lined drawers for sennheisers 600's and ATH-W1000's. I might put in shelves below that for CD's. The area for the components will have double doors so that I can close off the LED's on the gear from lighting up my bedroom at night.

ah... there goes the call of the kids demanding my attention... I appreciate the feedback, and the side converstions, keep them coming!

Mahkook
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