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post #91 of 1975

For $1300, I prefer the Ed8. Can be found for $1,300 at amazon and cheaper at RMC audio.

 

And indeed, Ed8 are very beautiful. This Signature Pro looks "cheap".

 

I wonder if they sound better than Ed8.

 

The plus? carrying case, detachable cable. My VPG-3201 makes my Ed8 trans-portable hehe :P

 

 

post #92 of 1975

Ultrasone's plastic headphones may look cheep when compared to the Edition line, but they're actually really durable now-a-days (since they fixed the headband issue). The point of the Signature Pro seems to be offering Edition-level sound in a package that is sturdier and less extravagant looking.

 

I'm hoping they'll sound more like the Edition 9 than the Edition 8, personally.

post #93 of 1975

 

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For $1300, I prefer the Ed8. Can be found for $1,300 at amazon and cheaper at RMC audio.

 

And indeed, Ed8 are very beautiful. This Signature Pro looks "cheap".

 

I wonder if they sound better than Ed8.

 

The plus? carrying case, detachable cable. My VPG-3201 makes my Ed8 trans-portable hehe :P

 

Definitely agreed, my only complaints re the Edition 8 is the lack of a hardshell case (although the goatskin bag is really nice), and the hardwired cable.

post #94 of 1975

Honestly, whatever Ultrasone does they're going to get flak for it. If they make their headphones all glossy and prettied up, people complain about them being too flashy. If they make their headphones look utilitarian and nondescript, people complain about them not being flashy enough. tongue.gif

post #95 of 1975
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Honestly, whatever Ultrasone does they're going to get flak for it. If they make their headphones all glossy and prettied up, people complain about them being too flashy. If they make their headphones look utilitarian and nondescript, people complain about them not being flashy enough. tongue.gif



Rather a surprising comment from you considering not to long ago you were on the Grado PS500 thread slamming their flagship for using cheap looking materials. deadhorse.gif

 

Any who so that everyone on here knows bassheads also like coming on the Grado threads and laying the smack down on the treble heads for being Grado fanboys. Lets be perfectly honest people the extreme bass and treble head camps is made up of screwball geeks who love to needle one another for the pure joy of it. Speaking as a fellow screwball I don't think its a bad thing as long as people don't go overboard and start acting like an insult on their headphones is equivalent to insulting ones wife. To bad everyone can't keep things in perspective and learn to get along. Some people have to learn how to kick back have a beer beerchug.gif relax and throw on their cans and just have a good old time like the two lovable characters below.

darthsmile.gif <<<<<BassHead Bob

L3000.gif<<<<<TrebleHead Tim

 

I'm rather curious about these headphones and await first impressions. For the price Ultrasone is demanding they better sound jaw dropping great. For whoever posts the threads first impression may I be so bold as to suggest the song Kumbaya as the chief test track. wink_face.gif

 

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Edited by DigitalFreak - 11/16/11 at 3:05am
post #96 of 1975
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Rather a surprising comment from you considering not to long ago you were on the Grado PS500 thread slamming their flagship for using cheap looking materials. deadhorse.gif

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify, I don't consider Ultrasone's plastic headphones to be cheap feeling. I used the terms "utilitarian and nondescript" because, to me, they don't feel cheap. I do consider Grado's use of foam earpads, pizza boxes, and their over-reliance on glue to be cheap, however.

 

And that's not because I care whether headphones have metal plating or velvet lining or any "luxurious" materials. I just want them to be well built and sturdy. To me, Grado's don't seem particularly sturdy, especially when you load the headband assembly down with those huge earcups the PS1000 has.

 

I actually prefer utilitarian design to high gloss. With the PS1000, I think Grado made things WORSE by making the earcups shiny bling-bling chrome instead of the previous matte finish. Now the scratches from the factory show up even more prominently and it's a fingerprint magnet. I'd rather Grado and Ultrasone shy away from easily scratchable metals that attract fingerprints and use sturdy, solid-feeling materials.

 

Also: I'm not sure I get where you're coming from when you talk about "bassheads" trying to criticize "trebleheads." Surely, that comment wasn't aimed at me? Because I don't consider myself to be either of those, nor did I say anything negative about the sonic signature of the PS500 or PS1000. In fact, I only said positive things about the PS500. And yes, I HAVE listened to the PS1000 and I like its sound signature. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and freaking out because someone criticizes one particular aspect of their precious favorite brand. Every brand has its quirks and things it does poorly, and I'm the first to admit this is the case with any products I enjoy.


Edited by MuppetFace - 11/16/11 at 3:51am
post #97 of 1975
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Just to clarify, I don't consider Ultrasone's plastic headphones to be cheap feeling. I used the terms "utilitarian and nondescript" because, to me, they don't feel cheap. I do consider Grado's use of foam earpads, pizza boxes, and their over-reliance on glue to be cheap, however.

 

And that's not because I care whether headphones have metal plating or velvet lining or any "luxurious" materials. I just want them to be well built and sturdy. To me, Grado's don't seem particularly sturdy, especially when you load the headband assembly down with those huge earcups the PS1000 has.

 

I actually prefer utilitarian design to high gloss. With the PS1000, I think Grado made things WORSE by making the earcups shiny bling-bling chrome instead of the previous matte finish. Now the scratches from the factory show up even more prominently and it's a fingerprint magnet. I'd rather Grado and Ultrasone shy away from easily scratchable metals that attract fingerprints and use sturdy, solid-feeling materials.

 

Also: I'm not sure I get where you're coming from when you talk about "bassheads" trying to criticize "trebleheads." Surely, that comment wasn't aimed at me? Because I don't consider myself to be either of those, nor did I say anything negative about the sonic signature of the PS500 or PS1000. In fact, I only said positive things about the PS500. And yes, I HAVE listened to the PS1000 and I like its sound signature. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and freaking out because someone criticizes one particular aspect of their precious favorite brand. Every brand has its quirks and things it does poorly, and I'm the first to admit this is the case with any products I enjoy.


Actually the comment was aimed at the thread. If you read the first few pages you'll notice some not so nice people slamming Ultrasone and some other people not liking it to much who then bring Grado into the subject by saying they don't waste they're time trolling Grado threads. Interesting how Grado always seems to get mentioned when certain users go haywire. Where I'm coming from isn't an accusation towards you or anyone in particular but simply a statement of what I perceive as fact based on behavior I've observed from various users from both sides of the fence and nothing more then that. I also tried to state it in a tongue in cheek manner so as to not offend anyone. In hindsight I should have taken the time to write out my post in a more concise manner instead of just typing something and quickly posting it. My apologies if it came across as a personal attack.

 

As for your statement using the words "utilitarian and nondescript" fair enough. Personally I think using cheap plastic on a headphone that's priced $1000 and up is cheap on the manufacturers part but that's just my opinion. We could argue about glue cardboard boxes foam cheap plastic the economy high oil prices the EU financial crisis and war in the Middle East but why bother. Should either of us really care what cans the other person considers the better value? I think we're both intelligent enough to know the answer to that question? I'm just a music lover like you and nothing more so lets enjoy one anothers company and hope this new headphone is actually worth the money Ultrasone is asking. It would make this natural born cynic rather happy if this new Signature Pro Series can was sonically all that and a bag of chips.

 

By the way nice collection of gear on your profile page. I also love your statement under the cables section. It's nice to see I'm not the only one on here who hasn't chosen to sell a kidney in order to buy a silver cable. I'm impressed.beerchug.gif

 

 


Edited by DigitalFreak - 11/16/11 at 5:18am
post #98 of 1975

Nice.  I agree about the cables, and I've posted The Science behind the reason why copper cable is so prevalent many times to...absolutely no end. 

 

Also, I checked out your profile after DF's post.  This caught my attention:

 

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Interests (non-headphone):   I have the interests of both a teenage boy and an elderly man.

So...teenage girls?  ;)

post #99 of 1975
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Actually the comment was aimed at the thread. If you read the first few pages you'll notice some not so nice people slamming Ultrasone and some other people not liking it to much who then bring Grado into the subject by saying they don't waste they're time trolling Grado threads. Interesting how Grado always seems to get mentioned when certain users go haywire. Where I'm coming from isn't an accusation towards you or anyone in particular but simply a statement of what I perceive as fact based on behavior I've observed from various users from both sides of the fence and nothing more then that. I also tried to state it in a tongue in cheek manner so as to not offend anyone. In hindsight I should have taken the time to write out my post in a more concise manner instead of just typing something and quickly posting it. My apologies if it came across as a personal attack.

 

 


Ah, gotcha. Unfortunately I've had more than my fair share of people assuming I don't like the way something sounds just because I comment about another aspect of it like build quality. Or they assume I haven't heard it at all and that I'm being frivolous. It's unfortunate when people try to make the argument personal. I know our hobby is an expensive one, but some of these head-fiers need to really calm down.

 



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So...teenage girls?  ;)


Girls? Yes. Teenage? Nah. smile.gif

 


Edited by MuppetFace - 11/16/11 at 9:01am
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What if one is a Bass head, Treble head, and mid centric?

XB700, RS2, DT1350*pretty damn midrang oriented IMO*

post #102 of 1975
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Girls? Yes. Teenage? Nah. smile.gif

 


Hah!  Nice answer.  How do the highs and lows of the Ed series compare to the PRO900?  My perfect can is closed, has the highs and lows of the PRO900, plus the mids of my old woodied SR225i.  I'm sincerely starting to think it doesn't exist...Malveaux is fairly convinced that the HE-500 fits the bill, but I need something closed due to my listening environment.

 

Also, I'm with you on the way the SigPro looks.  Industrial, flat black, sleek, like it can take a beating.  I'm not one much for babying even expensive headphones.

 

post #103 of 1975
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Hah!  Nice answer.  How do the highs and lows of the Ed series compare to the PRO900?  My perfect can is closed, has the highs and lows of the PRO900, plus the mids of my old woodied SR225i.  I'm sincerely starting to think it doesn't exist...Malveaux is fairly convinced that the HE-500 fits the bill, but I need something closed due to my listening environment.

 

Also, I'm with you on the way the SigPro looks.  Industrial, flat black, sleek, like it can take a beating.  I'm not one much for babying even expensive headphones.

 



 

 

Audio Technica W1000X is probably exactly what you're looking for. I would also suggest the W11R, but it's tough to find.

post #104 of 1975
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Hah!  Nice answer.  How do the highs and lows of the Ed series compare to the PRO900?  My perfect can is closed, has the highs and lows of the PRO900, plus the mids of my old woodied SR225i.  I'm sincerely starting to think it doesn't exist...Malveaux is fairly convinced that the HE-500 fits the bill, but I need something closed due to my listening environment.

 

Also, I'm with you on the way the SigPro looks.  Industrial, flat black, sleek, like it can take a beating.  I'm not one much for babying even expensive headphones.

 



I haven't heard the PRO 900 or the SR225i, so I'm afraid I wont be of much help there, but going by what I know from other PRO and Grado headphones, wind016's suggestion of the W1000x seems pretty solid. Between the Edition 8 and 9, the highs and lows of the PRO 2900 seem closer to the 9 to me. It'll be interesting to hear if these Signature Pros are close to the 9s in their sound.

post #105 of 1975

Have you heard a pair of thunderpants?

 

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Hah!  Nice answer.  How do the highs and lows of the Ed series compare to the PRO900?  My perfect can is closed, has the highs and lows of the PRO900, plus the mids of my old woodied SR225i.  I'm sincerely starting to think it doesn't exist...Malveaux is fairly convinced that the HE-500 fits the bill, but I need something closed due to my listening environment.

 

Also, I'm with you on the way the SigPro looks.  Industrial, flat black, sleek, like it can take a beating.  I'm not one much for babying even expensive headphones.

 



 

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