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post #46 of 2064
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post



One of the sharpest critical posts I've read in headfi. Thanks for the laugh!



sad, he wasn't even accurate.  the headband is different.  the cable is different, and it's detectable too.  and it's a bit cheaper than ed9......

post #47 of 2064
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Originally Posted by limpidglitch View Post



I don't know.

They've tried countless times to make a good headphone only to fail. Then they tried even harder, spent more money, only to fail even harder.

 

Maybe if they this time tried to make a rubbish headphone they would, for once, succeed?



I liked the ED7's, and the HFI-2400's, HFI-580, Edition 8, pro900, and pro 2900. I just feel they need to focus on function over form.

post #48 of 2064

My pro2500's never fail to impress each time I listen to them. Incredible headphones. More than happy with these. Interested to see about the 2900.


Edited by nick n - 11/1/11 at 8:33pm
post #49 of 2064

Any of the open Ultrasone models had harsh highs IME. It wasn't completely unexpected that the ED10 would have harsh treble too. I have a bit more faith in their closed models.

post #50 of 2064

I couldn't imagine buying a >$1000 HP... until now. I will likely wait until one appears in the classifieds. Hopefully they'll ship soon and someone will take one for the (basshead) team.


Edited by audiogamma - 10/30/11 at 7:11pm
post #51 of 2064

 

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Originally Posted by audiogamma View Post

I couldn't imagine buying a >$1000... until now. I will likely wait until one appears in the classifieds. Hopfully they'll ship soon and someone will take one for the (basshead) team.


I fully agree on both accounts. biggrin.gif

post #52 of 2064

I don't understand the haters at all. I can sympathize with the RSA and Rudi haters as I view that as a PSA-message where the intent is truly to save people from making a bad purchase, but there are 100s of Ultrasone fans on this board. I can't listen to Grados w/o contemplating suicide, but you don't see me hassling posters in the treblehead forum!

 

It's akin to a Protestant going to a forum on Catholicism and stating, "You're f****d". Sonic preference is a very personal one. I suggest we all stand in a circle and sing Kumbaya.

 

 


Edited by audiogamma - 10/30/11 at 7:04pm
post #53 of 2064
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Originally Posted by Radio_head View Post

Remember when Ultrasone teamed up with Rudistor?  I think that says enough about both companies.  

 

I will never know what these sound like, because after owning and trying every edition headphone and the pro900, I have come to the same conclusions as halcyon years ago.  Skylab's impressions convinced me to try the 8's, but alas they were no different...


I am confused, as I just read your Ed9 review yesterday and it seemed as though you liked them (enough to buy them again at the price you paid). English is my native tongue.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/products/ultrasone-edition-9/reviews/3960

 

post #54 of 2064
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Originally Posted by audiogamma View Post

I don't understand the haters at all. I can sympathize with the RSA and Rudi haters as I view that as a PSA-message where the intent is truly to save people from making a bad purchase, but there are 100s of Ultrasone fans on this board. I can't listen to Grados w/o contemplating suicide, but you don't see me hassling posters in the treblehead forum!

 

It's akin to a Protestant going to a forum on Catholicism and stating, "You're f****d". Sonic preference is a very personal one. I suggest we all stand in a circle and sing Kumbaya.

 

 


 

Oh, I can criticize Grados as well. Like nails on a chalkboard most of them. tongue.gif

 

What I'm really criticizing here is the price point, though. I just can't imagine someone paying this kind of money for an Ultrasone (or Grado, for that matter)

 

I never have, and never will speak badly about the 750. I realize some people like it's sound, and that's perfectly alright.

post #55 of 2064

I can't comment on the sound, but man these are some really plain looking headphones.

post #56 of 2064

I think most who try to dissuade people from the Ultrasone route (myself included after owning every model they've made from the PRO900 up) are doing it to prevent people from making a stupid purchase. Ultrasone is more full of audiophoolery babble than any "high end" headphone brand.  Every selling point they make is either over hyped or creating problems out of nothing.  (I hate all the radiation my other headphones give off, and S-Logic...nevermind.)  They keep releasing new models with the same 40mm titanium drivers in the lower end older models and redressing it. It seems with every new release they take it upon themselves to discover that there are goats in yet another third world African country that they can slaughter for their luxury ear pads, and along with the rare-metal-of-the-day for the plating that is scientifically proven to improve sound quality by scientists with beakers and lab coats, they mark their headphone up to reflect the copious amounts of R&D that it took their marketing department to say "what if we took S-Logic and made it... S-Logic plus - would people fall for that?"  The only thing people seem to like them for is their bass... which has no extension (see Tyll's measurements.)  They represent everything reprehensible in the hi-fi audio industry and it behooves those of us with a conscience to let that be known to potential buyers so they can make informed purchases.  

 

There is a difference between Ultrasone and Grado.  Whenever I think of how I don't like the sound of Grado's current line, I'm stymied from dismissing them as a company by thinking of their past offerings, such as the HP1000.  Ultrasone has made uniformly bad headphones, albeit ones that may cater to certain people's listening tastes.

 

Your analogy is faulty.  Head-fi is like a general religion forum.  As a Protestant, you try to persuade them towards your brand of Christianity and away from the others because that's how you find salvation or waldo or whatever.  It would have been apt if all the Ultrasone haters spammed the appreciation threads, but my understanding is that is not what you are referring to.

 

Having said all that, if someone (who has tried the alternatives) likes the Ultrasone sound, then by all means carry on.  Kumbaya.

 

Edit - thanks for reminding me of that review audiogamma.

 

 

These were my issues then (Click to show)

 

 

A)Low listening levels. I often listen at very low volume, and the Ultrasones didn't start sounding great until mid volume in my opinion.
B) Genre synergy. The ultrasones punchiness was incredible for rock and some harder bop/jazz, but for strings, classical and smoother jazz, the punchiness took away. My denons had the smoothness that really gave me a euphoric experience, especially with jazz.
C) Portability. This was my biggest problem. I'm going to be travelling a lot by bus and plane over the next few years, and needed something I could take with me. The ultrasones are only portable with their stock cable, which I hear sounds much worse. So since you basically have to go with the ALO recable, its not portable enough for me. So I went with the JH13 pro IEM's, which I'm really enjoying. But I still keep my Denon's for classical music and jazz.

D) Smudgability. This really annoyed me, although it does not affect sound or comfort.  The chrome/ruthenium insignia plates would get really smudged looking from the oils on your hands.  It was easy enough to clean, but meant you couldn't touch the shiny thing... and everybody wants to touch the shiny thing!

E) Value. I have heard different things about what the differences between these and, say, the pro900 are.  Having not listened to Ultrasones other models, I cannot weigh in on that debate although the specs alone make one suspect.  But I can say that in my experience they were not worth the tag, unless fancy headphones validate you as a person, in which case go for them.  Otherwise, there are better cheaper headphones out there, both closed and open.  Even ultrasone's newest edition headphone is supposed to be better, and the palladium version would match my macbook pro.  (In that they inflate the price because they can.  And the aluminium thing too I guess.)

 

 

 

 

 

It was done before any of the current dynamic/ortho flagships were released (the HD800 had just come out, but no HIfiman products, T1, LCD-2/3,) and as such the only decent headphone I had heard to compare it to was the JH13, which trounced them.  I think I was being pretty even handed in saying that they were enjoyable on certain genres and that they had more bass slam than an IEM, as in my experience most headphones do.  I liked them and the ED8 more than the D5000's but thats not saying much.  The main thing that has changed since that review is that Ultrasone has released two new "Edition" headphones, which have been the same or worse than the ED9.  All their advancements have been in aesthetics, and that has cemented them as a certain type of company in my mind.  Additionally, I tried out (and am now on the group buy for) Thunderpants, which have pretty much ended the closed headphone question for me.  Much better than the D5/7000s or any Ultrasones.  I would slightly change the moral of the story to:  I won't buy them again instead of "I might at half price with a free $400 cable thrown in."


Edited by Radio_head - 10/30/11 at 8:00pm
post #57 of 2064
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Originally Posted by Radio_head View Post

 

Your analogy is faulty.  Head-fi is like a general religion forum.  As a Protestant, you try to persuade them towards your brand of Christianity and away from the others because that's how you find salvation or waldo or whatever.  It would have been apt if all the Ultrasone haters spammed the appreciation threads, but my understanding is that is not what you are referring to.

 

Having said all that, if someone (who has tried the alternatives) likes the Ultrasone sound, then by all means carry on.  Kumbaya.


This is essentially a "fanboy" thread along the same vein as an appreciation thread. "All of the Ultrasone haters..." I don't get the quantitative distinction. All? I am sure some have been left out, are busy burning ED9s in effigy, or are sleeping with their HD650s.

 

I feel it needs to be repeated -- if you don't like Ultrasone, what are you doing in this thread? If you don't like the Ed9 then I would imagine a 4-star review should receive some editing. Maybe 3-stars?

 

I've got 3 kids and certainly don't have the time to kill loitering in threads concerning headphones I dislike. You guys must be single!


Edited by audiogamma - 10/30/11 at 8:05pm
post #58 of 2064

I just edited the review at the end where I adjusted the ratings.  I felt it unfair to adjust the actual stars because I did feel that way at one point.  If this is indeed a fanboy thread then I remove myself from it as I prefer being content to contention.  

post #59 of 2064

Ultrasone>Grado because open headphones are stupid. tongue.gif

post #60 of 2064

Has anyone posted impressions of the signature headphones yet?

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