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post #1681 of 2061
And that happens to a headphone that comes with a very sturdy transport box itself. Mine is in my backpack everyday when I ride my bicycle to work since I got it and is still like brandnew. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by pietcux - 7/28/13 at 8:57am
post #1682 of 2061
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Being the over-protective person I am, I bought a pelican case for my Sig DJ, and lined it with soft microfiber cloths to avoid any foam abrasion on the headphone's leather. Well the black dye from the cloths leached in to the porous matte white cups of the earphone, and that is not going to come out. 

 

So now, because I took SO good care of my equipment, i have a mint condition Sig DJ with black dye leached into the white earcups. Can't quite describe how infuriating this is. 

 

WASH YOUR MICROFIBER CLOTHS BEFORE USE. 

 

LOL!! Sorry but I had to laugh a little!! What cleaning products have you tried?
post #1683 of 2061
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

And that happens to a headphone that comes with a vety sturdy transport box itself. Mine is in my backpack everyday when I ride my bicycle to work since I got it and is still like brandnew. smily_headphones1.gif

 

I used that for a long time, should have stuck with that. But I wanted to preserve the Ultrasone case if I DECIDED TO EVER SELL THEM!!!  rolleyes.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

 

LOL!!Sorry but I had to laugh a little!!What cleaning products have you tried?

 

Just some hot water and a rough wash cloth. Afraid to use any solvents. Any suggestions? Maybe I'll try a little mild soap. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 7/23/13 at 12:19pm
post #1684 of 2061
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Just some hot water and a rough wash cloth. Afraid to use any solvents. Any suggestions? Maybe I'll try a little mild soap. 

 

I haven't tried anything yet but mild soap might sound Ok. Just use it on a tiny portion of the affected area (I don't think it will turn out any worse!).

post #1685 of 2061

Ha! indeed. Thanks, I'll report back. 

post #1686 of 2061

A little late to the Signature Pro party, however better late than never.

 

Firstly I like the utilitarian design aspects and look of the SP.  It doesn’t have the expensive looking aesthetics of the Edition 8 and as for visual preference, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

In the hand it is clearly a quality product, from the leather padding to the plastic/glass cups, it feels solid and very well made.

 

As a current owner of the LCD2.2, and T1 and having had the ATH W3000ANV and Ed8, I feel I have some reference to add to the opinions of sound signature and quality of the Signature Pro.

Headfiers can debate all they want regarding whether the LCD 2, T1 and W3000ATH are top tier or not, however I have little doubt that they compare favourably sound quality wise, to any of the ”other” top tier headphones.  Sound signature preference will always result with individuals preferring HD800, or other solid performing headphone.

 

So how does the Signature Pro stack up sound quality wise against the LCD, T1 and W3000ANV?

In my opinion without question it holds its own. 

 

This is not a review nor a direct comparison against any of the 3 phones I am referencing against the SP, I will simply give a brief descriptor of how I see the differences in the various sound signatures.

T1-very neutral, no real leaning to any over/under emphasis in the sound spectrum

LCD-fairly neutral, natural sounding (the term organic is often used and although I don’t really think it is a very descriptive headphone word, it works for me in describing the LCD) slight warm signature

W3000ANV-very similar to the T1, with just a touch of colourisation that some will prefer and others won’t.

Signature Pro- Fairly neutral, warm slant, with slightly “shimmering” highs without any noticeable sibilance.

 

From the brief exposure I have had to the Pros signature, I really like it.  There is a similar Ed8 signature quality but to a lesser extent, I think. (I had the Ed 8 for around 12 months, however it was a while ago and memory and sound recollection are not good bed fellows).  I guess I am saying that there is a house sound linking the Ed8 and SP, however the Ed8 is slightly more "Ultrasone" than the SP.  This is not to say that the Ed8 (or Sig Pro) is not realistic sounding, simply that there is a certain something specific to them (some describe it as metalic/digital).  To some degree there is an element of similar signature with each “type within a brand” of most headphones.

 

The SPro does not have an extensive sound-stage like the T1, however I don’t find it overly boxy or closed in like many closed and isolating headphones. 

The SPro is well built, isolates well, sounds great and competes with the best headphones around in clarity and sound quality.

 

 It has very solid bass performance (tight and impactful) when the music demands it, however I would not describe the Pro as being bass centric at all.

All up the Signature Pro is certainly top draw in my opinion.


Edited by Kernmac - 7/25/13 at 11:34pm
post #1687 of 2061

Nice to read you Kernmac ;) .. i'm an happy and proud owner of this Ultrasone Signature pro too and I tried many mid or top tier headphones recently and I Still think SP gives definitely a high end experience of listening regarding what I heard from all headphones tried. I listened to a Audeze LCD2 rev2 ( A/Bing vs K701) on a very serious rig ( Eddie current Super 7 + Auralic DAC) a week ago and really liked it .  

 

I completely agree with you about Sig pro "Ultrasone Home Sound". SP is surely the most moderate delegate of the family but it keeps definitely Ultrasone genes. For those who are not fond of this personality , then can really enjoy SP as one of the best close can in the world by using an even unexpensive tube Amp as Aune T1 for example.  Forwarder mids , tamed treble and a touch of analogic sound brought by tubes softened very well SP/Ultrasone character. Personnaly I really like this "young mad dog" personnality  . More "Vodka" than  "Old single Malt" if you see what I mean.  

 

This Ultrasone SP is very very underknown and underrated (because pro900 or ed10 "hot" reputation I presum...) and it's a real pleasure to see experimented audiophiles like you come here to say they really like these cans. Thanks!  

 

I'm now waiting my last purchase : A sennheiser HD800 redface.gif and I'm very interested to see if this new arrival makes me dislike my beloves Ultrasone. ( Don't be afraid  My friends. I can't really dislike my SP that "wow" me each time I leave it more than few days)


Edited by Sorrodje - 7/26/13 at 12:00am
post #1688 of 2061

Signature Pro is not just a great portable, it is a great headphone.  Fast becoming a favourite, with a sublime sound signature.  Probably give the edge to my T1 or LCD (home system) for acoustic/folk/vocals, but the Sig Pro isn't far behind them (not as realistic "live sounding", but has a uniquely "musical" quality) and is great for rock, beats (electronic), movie soundtracks and similar.

 

I find them comfortable and everything about the build, including cables, is first class. 

post #1689 of 2061

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Edited by Kernmac - 7/28/13 at 7:45am
post #1690 of 2061
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post

 

This Ultrasone SP is very very underknown and underrated

 

Ex SP owner here and i just recently heard them again. For half the price i would agree with this and would be all over it (again)... But for 899€... no way. It's not worth that for what it delivers.

post #1691 of 2061
Ok, that is your opinion, and that is ok. I do not agree with you about this.
post #1692 of 2061

Let me elaborate: The only thing the SP has for itself are the mids. These are really nice (though a bit dry) for a closed(!) headphone and similar to those of a very good 3-way active monitor (think Neumann K310 or ATC SM 25). The rest however is clearly middle-class. Treble resolution is hardly worth half the price if you consider some other cans you can get for under 300$, the bass response is good and clean but even my HP100 has deeper and more defined subbass, Soundstage is lacking in depth and layering, even the lowly Ultrasone Pro 750 delivers more in that regard. The comfort and build quality could be better as well considering these compete with the T1, HD800 etc..

In the end i still like the SP and think they are nice headphones and i would absolutely buy them for around 500€ ignoring their shortcomings. For 899€, i can't.

post #1693 of 2061
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Originally Posted by bizkid View Post

Let me elaborate: The only thing the SP has for itself are the mids. These are really nice (though a bit dry) for a closed(!) headphone and similar to those of a very good 3-way active monitor (think Neumann K310 or ATC SM 25). The rest however is clearly middle-class. Treble resolution is hardly worth half the price if you consider some other cans you can get for under 300$, the bass response is good and clean but even my HP100 has deeper and more defined subbass, Soundstage is lacking in depth and layering, even the lowly Ultrasone Pro 750 delivers more in that regard. The comfort and build quality could be better as well considering these compete with the T1, HD800 etc..

In the end i still like the SP and think they are nice headphones and i would absolutely buy them for around 500€ ignoring their shortcomings. For 899€, i can't.


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post #1694 of 2061
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


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frown.gif i was really underwhelmed on first listen. I thought "ohhh.... ATH-M50 with mids". It's not as bad as i make it sound because the overall package is still good.

post #1695 of 2061
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Originally Posted by bizkid View Post

Let me elaborate: The only thing the SP has for itself are the mids. These are really nice (though a bit dry) for a closed(!) headphone and similar to those of a very good 3-way active monitor (think Neumann K310 or ATC SM 25). The rest however is clearly middle-class. Treble resolution is hardly worth half the price if you consider some other cans you can get for under 300$, the bass response is good and clean but even my HP100 has deeper and more defined subbass, Soundstage is lacking in depth and layering, even the lowly Ultrasone Pro 750 delivers more in that regard. The comfort and build quality could be better as well considering these compete with the T1, HD800 etc..

In the end i still like the SP and think they are nice headphones and i would absolutely buy them for around 500€ ignoring their shortcomings. For 899€, i can't.

Clearly your opinion is not the same as mine.

 

I find it confusing that you state the Sig Pro has - nice but dry mids, treble resolution that can't compete with $300 headphones, bass that is inferior to Soundmagic HP100 (<$200), sound-stage that can't compete with Pro 750 (< $200), with comfort and build issues, and yet you would "absolutely" buy them for 500Euro  ($670USD). I would have thought they don't seem like a good value proposition to you at any price.

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