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post #1006 of 2085

Interesting comments on the ED8s. I think it would help if you mentioned what music you were listening to when you tried any pair of headphones, as we often forget that makes a huge difference in how we perceive things. 

 

I owned a pair of ED8s briefly and thought they were terrible. Mind you, I listen to a lot of jazz. If their drivers are as inconsistent as some measurements suggest, it could very well be luck of the draw whether we get a good pair of any of these headphones or not.

post #1007 of 2085
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I owned a pair of ED8s briefly and thought they were terrible. Mind you, I listen to a lot of jazz. If their drivers are as inconsistent as some measurements suggest, it could very well be luck of the draw whether we get a good pair of any of these headphones or not.

 

So much for the famous German engineering and precision happy_face1.gif.  My second pair of Beyer DT250's also sound different to the first.

 

It's seems to be a regular occurrence with headphone manufacturing in general.  What's needed is random checks on headphone QC by some external body and manufacturers being held to account, or at the very least notified of the test results. 

post #1008 of 2085

I really do think Ultrasone's QC is very inconsistent when it comes to drivers. I've heard a few pairs of Edition 9s and found quite a bit of variance from one to another. I've also heard several Edition 8s---and owned two different pairs---and found variance with them as well. Upstream gear, music preferences, and individual tolerances obviously contribute a great deal to discrepancies in reports, but I also get the sense from reading others' impressions of the PRO 2900 and Edition 10 that driver inconsistencies may very well be an issue there as well.

 

The Edition 8 is simply a brighter headphone to my ears compared to the Signature Pro no matter what setup I'm using. My original ruthenium version however seemed slightly less problematic in this regard than the limited version, and the latter version seems to have more pronounced glare.

post #1009 of 2085
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I really do think Ultrasone's QC is very inconsistent when it comes to drivers. I've heard a few pairs of Edition 9s and found quite a bit of variance from one to another. I've also heard several Edition 8s---and owned two different pairs---and found variance with them as well. Upstream gear, music preferences, and individual tolerances obviously contribute a great deal to discrepancies in reports, but I also get the sense from reading others' impressions of the PRO 2900 and Edition 10 that driver inconsistencies may very well be an issue there as well.

 

The Edition 8 is simply a brighter headphone to my ears compared to the Signature Pro no matter what setup I'm using. My original ruthenium version however seemed slightly less problematic in this regard than the limited version, and the latter version seems to have more pronounced glare.


I really like both of these and would be going out on a limb to purchase regarding cost.  I am baffled how a company could charge so much for an inconsistent product, even relative to the quality.  I really just want audiophile portable cans and am going to start with the Amperior which is being delivered today.  If that doesn't work, I may try the Signature Pro.

post #1010 of 2085
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I really like both of these and would be going out on a limb to purchase regarding cost.  I am baffled how a company could charge so much for an inconsistent product, even relative to the quality.  I really just want audiophile portable cans and am going to start with the Amperior which is being delivered today.  If that doesn't work, I may try the Signature Pro.

 

Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's not just Ultrasone either, but other companies like Beyerdynamic and Audez'e too that are notorious for product variation. One shouldn't have to play Russian roulette when buying audio gear.

post #1011 of 2085
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Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's not just Ultrasone either, but other companies like Beyerdynamic and Audez'e too that are notorious for product variation.

 

Are there other brands that you think are good about product variation? (i.e. have little variation in manufacturing?)

post #1012 of 2085
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Are there other brands that you think are good about product variation? (i.e. have little variation in manufacturing?)


Val from V-Moda has made several statements regarding a high level of consistency and minimal variation from headphone to headphone.  I have not done comparison to confirm, but maybe others have?

post #1013 of 2085
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Might sound crazy, but its worth the money in my opinion... biggrin.gif you get a work of art and arguably one of the best sounding headphones on the market.

I dreamt of TH900 yesterday and it sounded very good. I think I will have to be poorer this month to make that dream come true. Now looking for the cheapest vendor.

post #1014 of 2085
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Are there other brands that you think are good about product variation? (i.e. have little variation in manufacturing?)

 

Sennheiser has traditionally shown some of the least variation when multiples of the same headphone model were measured. Stax is another example of a company with very good consistency.

post #1015 of 2085

Is there anyone here who could provide a comparison for me between the Pro750 and the Sig Pro?
 

post #1016 of 2085

I own both.  While the 750's radical driver placement and larger cups gave more of a pinpoint effect to their imaging, they mostly sound f'd up compared to the Signatures.  I could put the 750's on tomorrow morning if you want something in depth, but from what I remember of their performance, even compared to something like the SRH840's, they're in very different leagues.

 

I don't remember the 750's having the sibilance the 8's or, to a lesser extent, the Signatures can have sometimes, but their incredibly funky midrange made them polarizing for me in a manner that the higher end Ultrasones aren't. 


Edited by driver 8 - 6/22/12 at 10:56pm
post #1017 of 2085
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I own both.  While the 750's radical driver placement and larger cups gave more of a pinpoint effect to their imaging, they mostly sound f'd up compared to the Signatures.  I could put the 750's on tomorrow morning if you want something in depth, but from what I remember of their performance, even compared to something like the SRH840's, they're in very different leagues.

 

I don't remember the 750's having the sibilance the 8's or, to a lesser extent, the Signatures can have sometimes, but their incredibly funky midrange made them polarizing for me in a manner that the higher end Ultrasones aren't. 

 

 

Would the Signature Pro be considered a upgrade to the Edition 8's

post #1018 of 2085
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Would the Signature Pro be considered a upgrade to the Edition 8's


I have listened to both and would say it is a lateral move based on personal preference.

post #1019 of 2085
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Would the Signature Pro be considered a upgrade to the Edition 8's

 

This topic come up several times (recently actually).. it might be a good idea to like through the past 20 pages of this thread - there should be some useful info/responses to your question. Just a warning the responses are varied so don't know how much it will help with your decision. My personal preference is towards the Signature Pro.

post #1020 of 2085

If you consider neutrality preferential, then I'd say the Signature Pro is an upgrade. In terms of "performance" that's really the only area where it bests the Edition 8 handily in my opinion. The Edition 8 on the other hand is more of a stereotypical "hi-fi" sound with sparkly treble and more of a "wow factor" to it. However some, like myself, find that gets old pretty quickly. So it depends on what you're looking for, as is most often the case.

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