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post #76 of 83
12/16/12 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by wje View Post


Yes, Tuesday Morning has been selling these at this price for a few months now. I initially went with a pair thinking it was a great deal. However, the headphones didn't work out so well for me. I had expected a better outcome regarding the sound. To me, the bass wasn't very good - then again, I might be jaded from owning HifiMAN HE-400s. So, in my case, then ended up getting returned. There are times when I realize what I'm happy with, but as to why I keep venturing out and opening my wallet may not be one of the best moves that I make.
Others have indicated using the Audio Technica M50 ear pads make the sound better. However, I looked at the situation of a $50 dollar headphone and then tossing in more money just to get improved sound. It was at that point, I decided to proceed with a return.

I don't understand how the bass can considered bad, just yesterday I was listening to a song by Olive and the bass was so good that I could have sworn there was a subwoofer strapped to my head. I could feel the bass and it was amazing, I seriously had an image of a subwoofer cone moving in and out it sounded so good. I'm not using any mods whatsoever and I was listening off my iPod touch 3g with no amp. But, I will also make the disclaimer that these and my Nuforce NE-7m are the only quality headphones I have ever used. 

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post #77 of 83
12/16/12 at 7:54am
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I don't understand how the bass can considered bad, just yesterday I was listening to a song by Olive and the bass was so good that I could have sworn there was a subwoofer strapped to my head. I could feel the bass and it was amazing, I seriously had an image of a subwoofer cone moving in and out it sounded so good. I'm not using any mods whatsoever and I was listening off my iPod touch 3g with no amp. But, I will also make the disclaimer that these and my Nuforce NE-7m are the only quality headphones I have ever used. 

 

You've probably been convinced by the quantity of the subbass, not the quality. Once you've listened to more headphones, the difference should become clear.

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post #78 of 83
12/16/12 at 8:53am
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You've probably been convinced by the quantity of the subbass, not the quality. Once you've listened to more headphones, the difference should become clear.

Hmmm, I generally don't like bass which is one of the reasons I picked this HP. According to Tdock these HPs are more focused on mids which is how I used to skew my equalizer when I played with those settings ages ago. To me these HP's separate the highs/mids/lows very accurately which really helps to emphasize them better in music. But this is just my opinion and you obviously had a bad experience with them, so.., to each their own.

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post #79 of 83
12/16/12 at 11:20am

While the TBSE's didn't fit my needs, it doesn't mean that the headphones are not good headphones.  Fortunately, I had purchased mine locally from Tuesday Morning and was able to return them within the return window and not lose a dime.  Mail order would have been a different story with postage costs.

 

When it comes to bass, I prefer the likes of the HifiMAN HE-400s as well as my Tiesto K617s from AKG.  The layers of bass, and sub-bass are very present, and in a quality manner.  I also have modified Fostex headphones.  For bass, I can say that it has bass, and the bass is present.  Yet, the Fostex isn't quite as capable at separating the bass like the HE-400s and the Tiesto K167.  Again, that's just my perspective.

 

With that said, the TBSE, at $49.99 is an amazing bargain.  At $149.99, or the retail level of price that they were at, it would have been a hard stretch to open the wallet and pay the price for what was being offered.  Plus, I don't think I can fairly compare headphones that I have, which cost more than the TBSE and then throw stones at what the TBSE can or can't deliver.

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post #80 of 83
12/16/12 at 11:46am
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Hmmm, I generally don't like bass which is one of the reasons I picked this HP. According to Tdock these HPs are more focused on mids which is how I used to skew my equalizer when I played with those settings ages ago. To me these HP's separate the highs/mids/lows very accurately which really helps to emphasize them better in music. But this is just my opinion and you obviously had a bad experience with them, so.., to each their own.

 

It's not that I've had a bad experience with the TBSE1s, but I wouldn't say the subbass itself is top-notch.

 

Like wje said, the bass and subbass by themselves should also have layers, which the TBSE1 usually homogenizes into one sound.


Edited by mbamg - 12/16/12 at 11:49am
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post #81 of 83
12/16/12 at 12:09pm
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That's funny, I think the DJ100/TB has some of the best bass I've heard. It certainly isn't because it has more quantity. It has better low bass extension and better bass overall than my HD-650. That's not saying much though, since the 650's bass doesn't have as good low bass extension as some other similarly priced headphones. The DJ100 might seem bass light to some because it doesn't have that much of a mid-bass hump. With stock and Pro700 MKII pads there is somewhat, but not like the MDR-V6 (which is super annoying).

 

The bass on the DJ100 to me sounds just slightly above neutral. Very slightly emphasized. Less so with M50 pads.

 

There's stuff I can pick up on my DJ100 that barely registers on my Q701 and HD-600. The 650 does slightly better, at least this pair.

 

The bass on the DJ100 definitely improves (IMO) with a good desktop amp and DAC. It loves my ODAC.

 

The DJ100 can often sound worse in the bass when using a darker amp. Sometimes it's not as good with a very warm source. The DJ100 doesn't need to be any warmer!

 

The bass on my HD-650 is so similar in quantity to my DJ100. This 650 sounds also like it has very very slightly above neutral bass, but slightly less than the DJ100. My 650 seems to sound like the inner fidelity graph, but sounds like it has a slight peak in the upper mids. A tiny one. Weird huh? NOTE: My last two 650s had bloated bass. So my new HD-650 is much different. I haven't found out why.

 

The DJ100's bass is also extremely well controlled (without an amp, it's often a bit sloppier). HD-650 is a bit better in this area.

 

IMO if a 5/10 was considered neutral bass, i'd give the DJ100 about a rating of 6.5/10. Most definitely not bass heavy. It's not going to magically make songs bassier than they should. Maybe a just a tiny bit more, but just barely.

 

Oh yeah, IMO the KRK KNS-8400 have very similar amounts of low bass to my ears. Yet some seem to think the KRK 8400 is bass light. I think it often sounds that way past the low bass frequencies (except for some upper bass).

 

The 8400 and DJ100 have the most present low-bass out of any other headphone I own. No, it's no subwoofer-like bass monster! It's just there like it should be.

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post #82 of 83
12/16/12 at 9:26pm
I don't want anyone to get the impression that I was claiming my TBSE were some awesome bass headphones, I think it may have come across that way. The best way I can describe it is that songs sound more 'accurate'? Than I have ever noticed before. So when I was listening to the song I mentioned earlier the electronic drums were more present than I've ever noticed and it was awesome. Like I was hearing the song the way it was meant to be.
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post #83 of 83
4/3/13 at 11:53pm

TBSE and standard 100's sound quite different. TBSE has elevated high frequencies in comparison to the 100.

 

However, TBSE doesn't hold up well in comparison to an open headphone. I A/Bed the TBSE with Koss Portapros. Portapros just destroy the TBSE.

 

The TBSE sounds pretty nice overall, but I just can't get over the 'listening in a chamber' effect when using the TBSE's. Sounds bounce around inside the cup and linger far longer than they should. If you enjoy the prospect of going to a concert on the floor of the grand canyon, these should appeal to you, however. :) jk

 

Overall, solid, but the echo/slow sound decay is a notable demerit. A B-, or maybe B--.
 

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