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post #3436 of 5610

So it seems like a lot of people rank the GR07 as better than IE80s around here...If I wasn't very impressed with the GR07, I'm guessing I won't like my IE80. What the hell do I need to buy to reach top tier iem territory without dabbling in customs!?

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So it seems like a lot of people rank the GR07 as better than IE80s around here...If I wasn't very impressed with the GR07, I'm guessing I won't like my IE80. What the hell do I need to buy to reach top tier iem territory without dabbling in customs!?


Some will rate the GR07 above it due to the mid bass hump. IMO its not a problem to be honest. On the IE8 it was as it drowned out the mids and treble. Although I must admit I am preferring the tape mod. I'm not sure if its me either but it seems the bass has increased on the IE80s even with the tape mod. It was less in quantity but seems to have gotten punchier and more quantity. Just mid bass is very much under control now.

 

I am one person who did not prefer the GR07 to the IE80s. It's treble is boarder line sibilant and due to is not having enough mid-bass IMO it just isn't a convincing sound for me. Its a good overall balanced sound except for it's mid bass (needs slightly more). It needs more to bring more balance to the sound and work better with more genres. Plus it's sound stage is so, so. Nothing to right home about, but I'll say still better than many BA IEMs. I still found the IE80 superior before the mod and far superior after the tap mod. Just no comparison.


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 12:23am
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Some will rate the GR07 above

Damn right they do! etysmile.gif
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Yeah I have the same exact sentiments about the GR07. I just want to finally reach the end of the road in universal IEMs and settle on one spectacular pair (aside from my Etys). I ordered the IE80, but after all the hatred and mediocre reviews I've read on this site, I feel like I'll be unimpressed and looking to return them. PFE232 and Heir 3.Ai are next on my list.

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Yeah I have the same exact sentiments about the GR07. I just want to finally reach the end of the road in universal IEMs and settle on one spectacular pair (aside from my Etys). I ordered the IE80, but after all the hatred and mediocre reviews I've read on this site, I feel like I'll be unimpressed and looking to return them. PFE232 and Heir 3.Ai are next on my list.


Well remember your sound preferences may not be in line with a lot of people on this website. You will get burned at times. I got burned on the EX1000 thinking it would be the very best universal IEM according to many well trusted headfiers. Well IMO that is not the case at all and I find it to be one of the worst IEMs I've ever heard period. Bass was amazing. Mids were so, so, just too dry for my liking. The treble was plain-old-pathetic and is what really ruined an otherwise good IEM for me. Just you need to figure out what sound signature do you like?

 

Did you like the sound signature of the GR07? It's not exactly the same as the IE80 but sound signature wise it is in the same ballpark. A fun sound just noticeably more fatiguing on the GR07 in comparison. The GR07s treble is a bit rough around the edges while the IE80s is very smooth and refined treble. I call this quality treble. The IE80s has more quantity bass, the GR07s bass is leaner (mid bass). IE80s mids are lush IMO, not in your face but intimate enough for my tastes. The tape mod really put the vocals in your lap. It's in your face and the treble is noticeably more upfront. They become detail monsters with the mod IMO. Just listening to them for a good while with the mod and then reverting back things just didn't sound right after that tlol. The mod made them sound bloated in the mid bass after getting use to the sound so I kept it since and very much enjoy them that way.


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 12:49am
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I will have to look in to the mod, but is it possible to undo if I decide to return them?

 

I loved the GR07, but they were tiring and the sibilance became increasingly obnoxious the more I listened to them. The treble is too sharp, especially with vocals and 's' words. I understand that people have different preferences when it comes to sound signature, but buying a returning IEMs so much is hard on the wallet and tiresome. I wish I could just pick the most expensive IEM knowing that it will deliver the best sound. I mean, are other 'top tier' IEMs going to just be sidegrades to the IE80 with different sound signatures? Or am I settling for a mid-fi universal with the IE80 and could get something leaps and bounds ahead of it? Or maybe it's like everything else in life: there's always something better out, or coming out.

 

btw, thanks for your responses.


Edited by anoxy - 10/5/12 at 12:55am
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I will have to look in to the mod, but is it possible to undo if I decide to return them?

 

I loved the GR07, but they were tiring and the sibilance became increasingly obnoxious the more I listened to them. The treble is too sharp, especially with vocals and 's' words. I understand that people have different preferences when it comes to sound signature, but buying a returning IEMs so much is hard on the wallet and tiresome. I wish I could just pick the most expensive IEM knowing that it will deliver the best sound. I mean, are other 'top tier' IEMs going to just be side-grades to the IE80 with different sound signatures? Or am I settling for a mid-fi universal with the IE80 and could get something leaps and bounds ahead of it? Or maybe it's like everything else in life: there's always something better out, or coming out.

 

btw, thanks for your responses.

 

Of course there are IEMs that are significantly better than the IE80.  Just you are gonna have to pay a big premium for such a thing. I paid around $800.00 for my Tralucent 1Plus2s and feel they were worth every penny. They are a big upgrade over the IE80s IMO but that doesn't mean I'd sell my IE80s. They also sound really good to me and the sound signatures are different enough for me to appreciate both.

 

The tape mod doesn't need to be permanent. All you need to do is put a small piece of tap over the bass knob adjusters (one on each side). You normally use a small screw driver to twists these bass ports to increase or decrease bass. Just a small piece of tape will cover it and you can easily take the tap off if you decide it doesn't work for you. I did find bass to increase after using it this way after a while so maybe don't judge it in the first couple minutes you listen to it. Give it time. It grew on me for sure. I know what a quality sounding IEM when I hear one and I feel the IE80 is one of them. The tape mod just made them that much better (detailed).


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 1:03am
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@~anoxy

GR07 sibilance along with the harsh treble is partly source depended, plus break in required to settle them. If you use a player with low output impedance sibilance is almost non existence as seen with my Cowon C2. Switch to the Clip+ or S9 and it can be quite frustrating. I highly recommend if you're looking at high teir IEM's to upgrade your source in the process. I can almost swear my GR07 have settled dramatically somewhere between 150 - 300 hours. I know crazy right? but my hears say it's so.

Good source is very important. More than some think!

imo
Edited by H20Fidelity - 10/5/12 at 1:05am
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GR07 sibilance along with the harsh treble is partly source depended, plus break in required to settle them. If you use a player with low output impedance sibilance is almost non existence as seen with my Cowon C2. Switch to the Clip+ or S9 and it can be quite frustrating. I highly recommend if you're looking at high teir IEM's to upgrade your source in the process. I can almost swear my GR07 have settled dramatically somewhere between 150 - 300 hours. I know crazy right? but my hears say it's so.
Good source is very important. More than some think!
imo


Not the case at all for me. I used them on my DX100 and Studio V (older model) and they still weren't that impressive. They had 200 hours of burn in so that should not be the issue. Compared to the IE80 its treble is a bit harsh and can get fatiguing. The IE80s treble is very smooth, yet not lacking in extension. It's there, just refined. It really comes down to preference if you like your treble a bit rough around the edges (hot) or smooth.


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 1:09am
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

@~anoxy
GR07 sibilance along with the harsh treble is partly source depended, plus break in required to settle them. If you use a player with low output impedance sibilance is almost non existence as seen with my Cowon C2. Switch to the Clip+ or S9 and it can be quite frustrating. I highly recommend if you're looking at high teir IEM's to upgrade your source in the process. I can almost swear my GR07 have settled dramatically somewhere between 150 - 300 hours. I know crazy right? but my hears say it's so.
Good source is very important. More than some think!
imo

I already sold the GR07 a few weeks ago. I had around 100 hours on them and the sibilance was lessened, but still present. I think my sources are completely sufficient. Either through my NFB 12.1 or iPod+Headstage Arrow.

post #3446 of 5610

Yeah that arrow should be more than sufficient. It may have been optimal though to give it 200+ hours time to fully settle. Although I still found them hot up-top. YMWV.
 

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Not the case at all for me. I used them on my DX100 and Studio V (older model) and they still weren't that impressive. They had 200 hours of burn in so that should not be the issue. Compared to the IE80 its treble is a bit harsh and can get fatiguing. The IE80s treble is very smooth, yet not lacking in extension. It's there, just refined. It really comes down to preference and if you like your treble a bit rough around the edges or smooth.

See it's strange, I can only speak for MK2 which was quite sibilant at first, the treble was off and bite on certain tracks, they would spike at higher volumes and was about to sell them. Though somewhere down the track after persistence they pulled together. I'm not the firmest believer in how much burn in can alter a signature or (what ever be the task) I'm also not trying to protect GR07, there's a 250 page thread of happy buyers for that, along with TF10 which I understand didn't thrill you to much either. I still think they're source dependant, there's been too much variation between sources for me not too.
Edited by H20Fidelity - 10/5/12 at 1:19am
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See it's strange, I can only speak for MK2 which was quite sibilant at first, the treble was off and bite on certain tracks, they would spike at higher volumes and was about to sell them. Though somewhere down the track after persistence they pulled together. I'm not the firmest believer in how much burn in can alter a signature or (what ever be the task) I'm also not trying to protect GR07, there's a 250 page thread of happy buyers for that, along with TF10 which I understand didn't thrill you to much either. I still think they're source dependant there's been too much variation between sources for me not too.


I understand the source can play a factor in it but my point is I'm using high end sources and the treble was still a bit harsh to my ears. Not saying it's garbage but I just didn't find it comparable to the IE80. I wasn't impressed. Then again I just tried the RE262 and felt very much letdown in comparison also lol. Mids were nice but still nothing to right home about. My IE80s mids are even better than the RE262s with the tape mod (more forward, lush). It happens when you get spoiled, my expectations were way too high and I actually believed they would have been much better than they ended up (wished placebo kicked in then lol) :(. Although I have to admit considering the RE262s price tag it was really good in that segment. Just not for me ;)


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 1:24am
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Well I haven't heard IE80, I don't even know why I'm in this thread actually? I always find myself in these tricky situations where I'm derailing a thread or going off topic I have no right to be in really. Before I know it we're talking about completely different IEM's and sources. It's true Lee, you're a special person. wink.gif

Enjoy!
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Well I haven't heard IE80, I don't even know why I'm in this thread actually? I always find myself in these tricky situations where I'm derailing a thread or going off topic I have no right to be in really. Before I know it we're talking about completely different IEM's and sources. It's true Lee, you're a special person. wink.gif
Enjoy!


lol. Well if I remember correctly you were debating on trying them out. So I don't see you as derailing. Maybe ichi can loan you his pair.... very_evil_smiley.gif It would be cool if you could try them out. Then maybe you may have an idea what I mean by "in comparison".


Edited by lee730 - 10/5/12 at 1:27am
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