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post #31 of 166
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no i cant say i recall getting any

post #32 of 166
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

no i cant say i recall getting any


Darn. Okay. I guess I do need to send mine back. Thanks.

post #33 of 166

I just received mine - I don't hear any driver flex. I'm not sure if the nozzles are supposed to move as mine don't seem to but I don't care about that at all - at least there is a chin slider. Anyway, I'll give them a proper burn-in, test it with different tips and write a review next week. At first listen I should say that I was more impressed with the GR02 BE out of the box but I can hardly call 10 minutes enough for passing any sort of judgment. 

 

edit: my bad - the nozzles move, I should have applied more force


Edited by kova4a - 8/28/12 at 7:39am
post #34 of 166

General ranting:

Received mine yesterday, and I promised Mark to type a few words about them, so here goes

I must say, I'm very impressed.I picked the GR04 to be part of my €100 audio project (which pretty much is a challenge I set myself to build a rig containing of PMP, Amp & cans for €100 or less). I payed +/- €40 for them, at that pricepoint, they're pretty much impossible to beat.

With Vsonics apparently completely random and idiotic naming scheme, it was a bit of a chore to find the version I wanted, as from what I understand there's the GR04, GR04Pro and GR04Pro 'Flagship edition', which apparently is no longer named 'Flagship edition', only adding to the confusion. But by comparing specs I managed to filter out the one that I wanted, which was the GR04Pro previously known as flagship edition thingamajig.

 

Sound:

Not going to say too much about this, as I haven't had enough time with them yet and Mark already did a pretty good writeup of the sound in the original post, so I'll (try to) keep it short.

They are nicely balanced, with a slight accent on the mids. The highs aren't very far behind, but the bass feels like it needs a bit more power than what is provided by the headphone out of my Clip+. With a little EQing and a little nudge in the power department provided by a Fiio E6 it all just works out beautifully. I love the way they sound (so far) after tweaking settings a bit. I'm curious if the sound will change much and in what direction when I have a few more hours on them.

Right now I'm having a seriously hard time believing something in this priceclass can sound this good, it can easily compete with my Sennheiser IE7 (which once had a €200+ MSRP). So far I like it much more than the IE7, the GR04 seems like a more stable performer, where the IE7 imho, when (sub)bass is present in music, tends to sacrifice mids & highs for the sake of bass. Now I'm quite the basshead, but bass shouldn't be at the expense of everything else. So while the quantity of bass on the GR04 is quite a bit less, it keeps doing everything right. And it's not like it doesn't do bass at all, au contraire, with the aforementioned amping and tweaking of the EQ, the lows really come out nicely. The GR04 EQed and amped is pretty much what I expected the IE7 to be when I first bought it. And at a fraction of the price.

Maybe I will post some more impressions once I have had a little more time to listen to it more thoroughly and/or do some more comparisons. I'm especially curious how it will compare to my W1 as that is probably the closest thing I have in my collection (price-wise).

 

Accesories:

And for the price, you get a crazy ammount of tips with them, mine included:

1 pair of Comply-style foamies

3 pairs of Sony-style hybrid tips

1 pair of Double flange silicone tips

9 pairs of regular silicon tips in a variety of sizes (including the smallest silicone tips I've ever seen)

 

Also included:

1 pair of ear hooks (which I will never use due to wearing glasses)

1 pleather pouch

 

Comfort & fit:

When I received them, I was surprised to find that they do have the adjustable nozzles, as multiple online sources of info told me not to expect them. A little detail, but one that can make a world of difference in getting a perfect fit. Currently I have the small hybrid tips installed. They are quite comfy like this, but unlike my Westones, you do notice they are there. With the hybrid tips they stay in place too, they passed the 'headbang-test' with flying colours.

post #35 of 166
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Originally Posted by Coop View Post

General ranting:

Received mine yesterday, and I promised Mark to type a few words about them, so here goes

I must say, I'm very impressed.I picked the GR04 to be part of my €100 audio project (which pretty much is a challenge I set myself to build a rig containing of PMP, Amp & cans for €100 or less). I payed +/- €40 for them, at that pricepoint, they're pretty much impossible to beat.

With Vsonics apparently completely random and idiotic naming scheme, it was a bit of a chore to find the version I wanted, as from what I understand there's the GR04, GR04Pro and GR04Pro 'Flagship edition', which apparently is no longer named 'Flagship edition', only adding to the confusion. But by comparing specs I managed to filter out the one that I wanted, which was the GR04Pro previously known as flagship edition thingamajig.

 

Sound:

Not going to say too much about this, as I haven't had enough time with them yet and Mark already did a pretty good writeup of the sound in the original post, so I'll (try to) keep it short.

They are nicely balanced, with a slight accent on the mids. The highs aren't very far behind, but the bass feels like it needs a bit more power than what is provided by the headphone out of my Clip+. With a little EQing and a little nudge in the power department provided by a Fiio E6 it all just works out beautifully. I love the way they sound (so far) after tweaking settings a bit. I'm curious if the sound will change much and in what direction when I have a few more hours on them.

Right now I'm having a seriously hard time believing something in this priceclass can sound this good, it can easily compete with my Sennheiser IE7 (which once had a €200+ MSRP). So far I like it much more than the IE7, the GR04 seems like a more stable performer, where the IE7 imho, when (sub)bass is present in music, tends to sacrifice mids & highs for the sake of bass. Now I'm quite the basshead, but bass shouldn't be at the expense of everything else. So while the quantity of bass on the GR04 is quite a bit less, it keeps doing everything right. And it's not like it doesn't do bass at all, au contraire, with the aforementioned amping and tweaking of the EQ, the lows really come out nicely. The GR04 EQed and amped is pretty much what I expected the IE7 to be when I first bought it. And at a fraction of the price.

Maybe I will post some more impressions once I have had a little more time to listen to it more thoroughly and/or do some more comparisons. I'm especially curious how it will compare to my W1 as that is probably the closest thing I have in my collection (price-wise).

 

Accesories:

And for the price, you get a crazy ammount of tips with them, mine included:

1 pair of Comply-style foamies

3 pairs of Sony-style hybrid tips

1 pair of Double flange silicone tips

9 pairs of regular silicon tips in a variety of sizes (including the smallest silicone tips I've ever seen)

 

Also included:

1 pair of ear hooks (which I will never use due to wearing glasses)

1 pleather pouch

 

Comfort & fit:

When I received them, I was surprised to find that they do have the adjustable nozzles, as multiple online sources of info told me not to expect them. A little detail, but one that can make a world of difference in getting a perfect fit. Currently I have the small hybrid tips installed. They are quite comfy like this, but unlike my Westones, you do notice they are there. With the hybrid tips they stay in place too, they passed the 'headbang-test' with flying colours.

The angle nozles are great. I cannot imagine the 04 without them. I have a very oddly shaped ear canal, the angle tips are a life-saver.

post #36 of 166
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yeah others reported they have angled nozzles but mine didint seem to be, maybe they added that when they were changing the names, your forgot the "classical" edition btw.  i quite agree with their present pricing they are quite the steal which if they haddnt played silly buggers with the name and priced it near its current price it would hove been a huge hit, still they got things right on that front with the 6.

post #37 of 166
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

yeah others reported they have angled nozzles but mine didint seem to be, maybe they added that when they were changing the names, your forgot the "classical" edition btw.  i quite agree with their present pricing they are quite the steal which if they haddnt played silly buggers with the name and priced it near its current price it would hove been a huge hit, still they got things right on that front with the 6.


I did some thinking on all of this, and while I could be entirely wrong, I think I've got this sorted a bit. In the Vsonic lineup, their 50 ohm drivers are in the higher end products. Hence the GR04 Flagship is just below the GR07. While the 24 ohm (GR02, GR04 Classic, GR06) are lower. So, the GR04 falls into two spots in the lineup. I have a hunch they added the adjustable nozzle to reduce costs. Since the GR06 and GR07 already have that feature, it was likely cheaper to use the same inner half of the IEM than to produce a stationary one.

 

I question this: if the GR04 has a similar driver (albeit doped differently, most likely) and the adjustable nozzle of the GR07, is the difference that large between the two?

 

I understand the GR04 is being sold more or less at cost at the moment (same goes for the GR99), is the GR07 basically set at the pricepoint the GR04 was intended for?

 

Also, why the GR04 classic and GR06? They have similar housings, drivers, etc, etc...

 

It makes very little sense.

post #38 of 166
Thread Starter 

in short, no idea.  i dont think anyone knows, the naming and pricing was all very confusing.

post #39 of 166

It's probably just a social experiment by the Vsonic crew and they are now all laughing their asses off over all the Vsonic naming scheme gripes on Head-fi...
 

post #40 of 166
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Originally Posted by Coop View Post

General ranting:

I payed +/- €40 for them, at that pricepoint, they're pretty much impossible to beat.

With Vsonics apparently completely random and idiotic naming scheme, it was a bit of a chore to find the version I wanted, as from what I understand there's the GR04, GR04Pro and GR04Pro 'Flagship edition', which apparently is no longer named 'Flagship edition', only adding to the confusion. But by comparing specs I managed to filter out the one that I wanted, which was the GR04Pro previously known as flagship edition thingamajig.

 

Same experience! Mine arrived today (took 15 daysconfused_face.gif), I payed 40€ on LendMeurEars  after verifying they really were the Flagship Edition..

 

I am REALLY impressed. Certainly, i expected them to be good since they were born as a sub 100$ product, just i didn't believe they could sound so good.

I have to say i don't notice a lack of bass at a first impression. They sure are less bassy then my previous GR99, but with the right tips and isolation they sure don't disappoint. I use medium sized hybrid tips, blue for the left ear and green for the right.. there is a total of 14 pairs of tips, OMG, just crazy.

The over ear design is awesome and they are so comfortable! 

 

I'm sooo happy with these things!

post #41 of 166
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Originally Posted by marald View Post

I have to say i don't notice a lack of bass at a first impression.

 

I have used them for +/- 12 hours now, and the Bass has gotten a tiny bit more in quantity and also a tiny bit deeper. I guess it was a typical case of 'need to loosen up a bit'. Right now my main problem with the GR04 is that it has made me very curious about the other Vsonic models *adds GR07 to wishlist*

 

I'm really loving the GR04 T.I.E.M.F.K.A.G.P.F.E. (The In Ear Monitor Formerly Known As GR04 Pro Flagship Edition). This one goes on my top 3 best audio purchases of 2012 list. So, thanks for the suggestion Mark :)

post #42 of 166
Thread Starter 

you, as always ,are very welcome.

post #43 of 166

Ordered GR04 today.. shows R04 on earpieces but specs indicate a 50ohm earphone..must be the 'old' pro version?  Will throw up some impressions after burn in...

post #44 of 166
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Originally Posted by VolumusMaximus View Post

Ordered GR04 today.. shows R04 on earpieces but specs indicate a 50ohm earphone..must be the 'old' pro version?  Will throw up some impressions after burn in...


Even if they come in the GR04 box, the back still says R04. Go figure.

post #45 of 166
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yeah most confusing naming ever

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