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post #1351 of 2063
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


In theory, and this is a pretty extensive mod I'm about to suggest, one could strip a pair of HFI-780s down and re-paint them like that (or anything else) - you could get a similar finish to the Ed9 if you put the time into it. But it would be pretty extensive to completely strip them down for that.

 

I've actually been thinking of doing this. However, first I need someone to actually buy my Pro 900 and DT770 AE before I can invest in another HFI-780.

post #1352 of 2063
You could also go Edition 7 style:

(it's on the right)
post #1353 of 2063
It's too bad all the shiny cups on the HFI series scratch by looking at them the wrong way... I'd love to see a nice pair of wood turned cups on a Ultrasone now that would be an amazing mod. biggrin.gif

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post #1354 of 2063
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

It's too bad all the shiny cups on the HFI series scratch by looking at them the wrong way... I'd love to see a nice pair of wood turned cups on a Ultrasone now that would be an amazing mod. biggrin.gif
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Woodie Ultrasones have always been interesting to me, the Edition 10 and Edition 8LTD just aren't woodied "enough" imho. My fear though, is that they'd turn out looking like Mezze headphones or similar, and not cool like Audio-Technica or Grado models. I just don't see a wooden Edition 7 or 9 turning out as awesome as we'd like to imagine I guess. redface.gif
post #1355 of 2063
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Originally Posted by chuckle490 View Post

can somebody make up my mind for me? I'm looking at the DJ 1, DJ 1 Pro, and the HFI 780s. I listen to House, Dubstep, Drum and bass, and Techno exclusively. I love bass but im coming from sony xb 500s and I know that I want tight accurate bass with clear mids, and shiny highs. Which pair of cans would be the best for me?

DJ1, 'nuff said.  Unless you want a detachable cable, then go DJ1 Pro....though I think those have a higher impedance than the DJ1.

 

 

Funny, every time I try to look for an upgrade to the DJ1, I see a post saying how I won't find anything better 'til I hit $200+....one person said $300. ....then again I listen to almost everything chuckle said (minus Techno).  

post #1356 of 2063
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Originally Posted by SkitZ0 View Post

DJ1, 'nuff said.  Unless you want a detachable cable, then go DJ1 Pro....though I think those have a higher impedance than the DJ1.


Funny, every time I try to look for an upgrade to the DJ1, I see a post saying how I won't find anything better 'til I hit $200+....one person said $300. ....then again I listen to almost everything chuckle said (minus Techno).  

The PRO2900 are probably the best headphones I've heard for the genres you listed; I have heard neither of the DJ headphones nor the HFI-780 though.

But the 2900 are better than the SA5000, Denons, etc for those genres. Very nice cans for electronic music. biggrin.gif (This isn't to say they're a one-trick pony - they're good at other things too).
post #1357 of 2063
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


The PRO2900 are probably the best headphones I've heard for the genres you listed; I have heard neither of the DJ headphones nor the HFI-780 though.
But the 2900 are better than the SA5000, Denons, etc for those genres. Very nice cans for electronic music. biggrin.gif (This isn't to say they're a one-trick pony - they're good at other things too).

A.  Those are open headphones (something I couldn't have even if I wanted them)

B.  They're about a full $400 more than what I paid for my DJ1 from Amazon.

 

Either way, I think it's safe to say that, for EDM, Ultrasone has that down-packed.

post #1358 of 2063
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Originally Posted by SkitZ0 View Post

A.  Those are open headphones (something I couldn't have even if I wanted them)
B.  They're about a full $400 more than what I paid for my DJ1 from Amazon.

Yeah, I know - I was meaning to both re-enforce your point and provide an example of a good way to spend one's >$300.

Because:
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Either way, I think it's safe to say that, for EDM, Ultrasone has that down-packed.

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Also, I have no idea what the PRO2900 cost today - are they back to full MSRP again?
post #1359 of 2063
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Yeah, I know - I was meaning to both re-enforce your point and provide an example of a good way to spend one's >$300.
Because:
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Also, I have no idea what the PRO2900 cost today - are they back to full MSRP again?

 

Well, according to Amazon, the MSRP is $600, yet they have them on sale for $550.  I honestly doubt I'll hear the sound I want for that much money, considering that the only thing I would want from my DJ1 is a detachable cable, less harsh treble (I think my ears are sensitive to it), and better comfort.

post #1360 of 2063
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Originally Posted by SkitZ0 View Post

Well, according to Amazon, the MSRP is $600, yet they have them on sale for $550.  I honestly doubt I'll hear the sound I want for that much money, considering that the only thing I would want from my DJ1 is a detachable cable, less harsh treble (I think my ears are sensitive to it), and better comfort.

Yikes, those have shot back up indeed! ph34r.gif

I haven't heard the DJ1, but I can tell you that the PRO2900 are unforgiving (I wouldn't say "harsh") - if the recording has lots of clash and trash in it, they will bring that out. But if the recording is smooth, they will be smooth. This means that distortion type music, like VibesquaD, can bring tears to your eyes, but smoother music, like FSOL is smooth as glass. IMHO they're comfortable headphones - they don't heat up, they aren't overly clampy (after breaking them in); I can very easily wear them for hours on end.

In terms of their improvement over ~$100-$200 headphones, like all higher end cans, I will say that it isn't a linear relationship but they are better. If that makes any sense. So I would expect you to hear improvements, but in terms of it smacking you in the face with "wow, this is three or four times better!" - I doubt that very much. That doesn't mean they're a bad buy though.
post #1361 of 2063
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Yikes, those have shot back up indeed! ph34r.gif
I haven't heard the DJ1, but I can tell you that the PRO2900 are unforgiving (I wouldn't say "harsh") - if the recording has lots of clash and trash in it, they will bring that out. But if the recording is smooth, they will be smooth. This means that distortion type music, like VibesquaD, can bring tears to your eyes, but smoother music, like FSOL is smooth as glass. IMHO they're comfortable headphones - they don't heat up, they aren't overly clampy (after breaking them in); I can very easily wear them for hours on end.
In terms of their improvement over ~$100-$200 headphones, like all higher end cans, I will say that it isn't a linear relationship but they are better. If that makes any sense. So I would expect you to hear improvements, but in terms of it smacking you in the face with "wow, this is three or four times better!" - I doubt that very much. That doesn't mean they're a bad buy though.

 

 

Ehh, in all honesty, I'm actually happy with the sound that I have now, besides what I said about the treble & the comfort......can't imagine too many closed headphones I'll find comfortable, though, and I'm just not a fan of open cans.  From what I've heard around the forums, people that spend a large amount of money on their equipment want to hear EVERYTHING the song has to offer, something I don't think EDM even presents in the first place :P

post #1362 of 2063
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Originally Posted by SkitZ0 View Post


Ehh, in all honesty, I'm actually happy with the sound that I have now, besides what I said about the treble & the comfort......can't imagine too many closed headphones I'll find comfortable, though, and I'm just not a fan of open cans.  From what I've heard around the forums, people that spend a large amount of money on their equipment want to hear EVERYTHING the song has to offer, something I don't think EDM even presents in the first place :P

I'll qualify that I'm not all people, so ymmv - personally I like my "higher up" cans more or less 'round the house over the "lesser" models, but can enjoy any of them fairly well. I'm not obsessed with hearing the performers heart-beat or whatever else while the music is playing, I just want things to sound good. And sure, there's a "collector mentality" there as well. Admittedly the improvements that you will realize upon getting much more expensive gear are not that great compared to stepping out of junk gear and into decent quality gear. In other words, going from something very cheap (lets pick on the Koss KPH-7, because I haven't ripped one apart recently) to something not so cheap (like the HFI-2400) is truly night and day in every sense of the word. But going from the HFI-2400 to the PRO2900 is more nuanced. But that begs the question: is the 2400 40 times better than the KPH? And is the 2900 120 times better than the KPH? Or 3 times the 2400?

When it comes to electronic music in general, there are certain pieces that are just sublime on the PRO2900 (or my 'stats), but other pieces that really do not need high fidelity. For example, Windowlicker will be a wall of messy distortion (biggrin.gif) and it doesn't matter how good your speakers are. It's still gonna be a clipped mess, and degrade into high pitched shrieking, every time. But Papua New Guinea on good cans (or speakers) is absolutely cathartic.
Edited by obobskivich - 11/20/12 at 6:29am
post #1363 of 2063
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


I'll qualify that I'm not all people, so ymmv - personally I like my "higher up" cans more or less 'round the house over the "lesser" models, but can enjoy any of them fairly well. I'm not obsessed with hearing the performers heart-beat or whatever else while the music is playing, I just want things to sound good. And sure, there's a "collector mentality" there as well. Admittedly the improvements that you will realize upon getting much more expensive gear are not that great compared to stepping out of junk gear and into decent quality gear. In other words, going from something very cheap (lets pick on the Koss KPH-7, because I haven't ripped one apart recently) to something not so cheap (like the HFI-2400) is truly night and day in every sense of the word. But going from the HFI-2400 to the PRO2900 is more nuanced. But that begs the question: is the 2400 40 times better than the KPH? And is the 2900 120 times better than the KPH? Or 3 times the 2400?
When it comes to electronic music in general, there are certain pieces that are just sublime on the PRO2900 (or my 'stats), but other pieces that really do not need high fidelity. For example, Windowlicker will be a wall of messy distortion (biggrin.gif) and it doesn't matter how good your speakers are. It's still gonna be a clipped mess, and degrade into high pitched shrieking, every time. But Papua New Guinea on good cans (or speakers) is absolutely cathartic.

 

Doesn't that also depend on both your source (mine aren't that great to begin with) and the bit-rate of the song?  And the recording?  A lot of mainstream artists probably don't record in high-quality anyway, especially since Beats (*shudder* i have a pair frown.gif) are so mainstream.  Seems like, unless you listen to music that's naturally recorded with quality & lossless files in mind, I can't justify spending more than $200 on a pair of headphones.

That still doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a pair if I had the money to be a headphone collectorbiggrin.gif

post #1364 of 2063
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You could also go Edition 7 style:
(it's on the right)

I'd love to hear your impressions of the Ed 7 and 9s. Then I'd like to hear what you'll sell them to me for biggrin.gif
post #1365 of 2063
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Originally Posted by SkitZ0 View Post

Doesn't that also depend on both your source (mine aren't that great to begin with) and the bit-rate of the song?  And the recording?  A lot of mainstream artists probably don't record in high-quality anyway, especially since Beats (*shudder* i have a pair frown.gif ) are so mainstream.  Seems like, unless you listen to music that's naturally recorded with quality & lossless files in mind, I can't justify spending more than $200 on a pair of headphones.


That still doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a pair if I had the money to be a headphone collector:D

Yeah I would agree more or less here - no point in having hi-fi to listen to junk.
And the 2900 are a very bad choice there - they are brutal with overcompressed or otherwise dumpy files.
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I'd love to hear your impressions of the Ed 7 and 9s. Then I'd like to hear what you'll sell them to me for biggrin.gif

I'd love to hear my impressions too! I'm not one of the lucky 999 though. For some reason the 9 has never spoken to me though - wasn't really interested when it was avalible, still amn't.
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