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post #106 of 272


 

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Originally Posted by noelhu View Post

 Frankly, from the reviews I've read, I don't think the RE272 is that great of an option at $250.

 

Wait 6 months. It'll drop to 199...  then 149...  then finally be at peace at 99 where it will be 'the best bargain in IEM audio'. And RE0 can be had for 39 dollars

post #107 of 272

I hope your prediction will come true... hehe.. then I will get the 272 for cheap..
 

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Originally Posted by wilzc View Post


 

 

Wait 6 months. It'll drop to 199...  then 149...  then finally be at peace at 99 where it will be 'the best bargain in IEM audio'. And RE0 can be had for 39 dollars



 

post #108 of 272

 

The RE252 started at 199 and fnished at 199, it's discontinued now, end of story.

 

 

The RE0 was overpriced and then came down to a normal price, different story.

 

 

post #109 of 272

 

You guys don't get it, for anyone that has $250 to spare, this IEM will satisfy them totally.

 

The CK10 and ER-4S are in the same price category, and all three are on pretty simliar levels of sound quality.

 

If anything is overpriced, it's the RE0, not this one.

 

:)

 


Edited by kiteki - 9/23/11 at 10:53pm
post #110 of 272

Where can you find the ER-4S for under $199??

post #111 of 272

^^ Either eBay or stolen. smile.gif

post #112 of 272

ck-10 is discontinued guys

 

 

on topic - which tips do you suggest for the 272 best ?

 

also what are the differences you perceiv between the single and the doubld flanges tips ?

post #113 of 272

LOL.

 

Alright, back on topic. I found the included bi-flanges best. Have you tried the sony hybrids?


Edited by i2ehan - 9/24/11 at 11:32am
post #114 of 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

You guys don't get it, for anyone that has $250 to spare, this IEM will satisfy them totally.

 

The CK10 and ER-4S are in the same price category, and all three are on pretty simliar levels of sound quality.

 

If anything is overpriced, it's the RE0, not this one.

 

:)

 

I don't think ER4S is as good as RE272. I don't think RE0 is overpriced at all because there is no way RE272 is anywhere near 3 times better. Haven't heard CK10, but no other dual driver BA I tried can compete with RE272.

post #115 of 272

RE272 is the most bass anemic IEM I have ever heard in my life.  Basically unacceptable at that pricepoint. Any IEM that makes an ER4 sound bloated and muddy is problematic to say the least.   I would take the W2 over ER4 or RE272 in a heartbeat.

post #116 of 272

 

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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

I don't think ER4S is as good as RE272. [...] Haven't heard CK10, but no other dual driver BA I tried can compete with RE272.

 


 

 

Musicality:

RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CK10 >>>>> ER-4S

 

Imaging/layering/seperation+soundspace:

CK10 >>> ER-4S >>>>>> RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RE0

 

Openness and crystal clear highs:

ER-4S >>>>> RE272 = CK10

 

Vocals:

RE272 >>>>>> ER-4S > CK10


Attack and Decay:

ER-4S >>>>>>>>>>> CK10 >> RE272

 

Emotion:

RE272 > CK10 >>>> ER-4S

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

RE272 is the most bass anemic IEM I have ever heard in my life. [...]


Aenemia:

RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ER-4S >>> CK10

 

Stridency:

CK10 >>>>>> ER-4S >>>>>>> RE272

 

Sibilance:
CK10 >> ER-4S >> RE272

 

 


 

 

post #117 of 272

 

Either RE272 or my brain has changed after burning in - I do not like ER6-14F anymore on RE272, they tame highs too much. I found that wearing RE272 upside down helps to get deep fit with many rubber tips. Now my 3 best tips for RE272 are:

 

RE272 best tips.jpg

 

From left to right, in order of preference.

  1. Unknown tips with narrow inner tube. I can not recall where I got them, sorry. These provide most balanced sound, no frequency stands out.
  2. Stock mid-sized tips from RE272. These tilt sound to the brighter, very same to ER-4P signature.
  3. Shure black rubber tip for E2C. Both bass and highs become stronger, sound is fun but less accurate

 

Deep fit and perfect seal are must for RE272 to unveil all its goodness. See funny pic below to learn how deep RE272 should go:

 

RE272 deep fit.jpg

 

Sony hybrids sound thin and lifeless. I have no Complys here, but I tried MTPC foam tips. They sound good but are not easy for me to insert.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by kostalex View Post

I am listening to HM602 > RE272 > Etymotic ER6-14F foams* and smiling happily.


Edited by kostalex - 9/25/11 at 10:04pm
post #118 of 272

Thanks for the feedback kostalex, I also found that stock double flange tips (with proper seating/fit) would give more balanced low/high but hate the trouble of insertion, reverse the L/R channels and over the ears wearing. Wish the the tips have convenience of wearing like Sony hybrid but sound quality of stock double flange.

So next outstanding question is in Comply tip vs stock double flange tip. Hope some headfier has tried this and tell the diffrence.

post #119 of 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Musicality:

RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ER-4S

 

Agreed, but this one is totally subjective.

 

Imaging/layering/seperation+soundspace:

ER-4S >>>>>> RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RE0

 

I agree that ER4S has better separation than the RE272, but I totally disagree with pretty much everything else here. RE0 IMO has better separation than the RE272 and is very close to the ER4S in this regard. RE0 is also very close to RE272 in imaging and I sometimes prefer RE0 over RE272 for imaging. RE272 has a more realistic sense of space, better layering with better depth than the ER4S IMO. ER4S sounds too flat by comparison, with little depth and little layering, but great separation indeed.

 

Openness and crystal clear highs:

ER-4S >>>>> RE272

 

I think RE272 has better highs than the ER4S - cleaner and smoother/more delicate with similar or even better detail resolution.

 

Vocals:

RE272 >>>>>> ER-4S


Agreed, although Etymotics are also really excellent with vocals.


Attack and Decay:

ER-4S >>>>>>>>>>>>> RE272

 

Umm, I think RE272 also has very nice, quick, clean decay. I actually think ER4 decays sounds too quickly, ending up sounding somewhat schematic/castrated.

 

Emotion:

RE272 > CK10 >>>> ER-4S

 

Agreed. ER4S sounds too dry and thin by comparison.


Aenemia:

RE272 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ER-4S

 

Yep, ER4 also has less bass to my ears. Or, more precisely, less bass body/fullness.

 

Stridency:

ER-4S >>>>>>> RE272

 

Are you serious?! I think RE272 sounds quite a bit smoother than Etymotics and is certainly less prone to sibilance to these ears.

 

Sibilance:
ER-4S >> RE272

 

I hardly heard any sibilance at all from RE272. Heard quite a bit more from ER4S, while the ER4P was unbearably harsh to my ears in the treble with a lot of music.

post #120 of 272

 

You reversed the last 3, I'm implying the RE272 has the most aenemia, the ck10 has the most sibilance, and the ck10 has the most stridency.

 

 

Musicality is not "totally subjective", it might be more subjective than most other variables, but a lot of people will agree on which IEM's are more musical and less musical than others.

 

 

I stopped listening to the RE0 and sold it for $35 because it's the most garbage hyped IEM on head-fi.

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