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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by drhoooon View Post

I actually live 30min away from him, will give him a visit sometime next month as I'm too busy right now. He owes me $250USD afterall

Post some feedback in October. With pics if possible very_evil_smiley.gif



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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

I really hope this whole things gets sorted out soon. I've had transactions with Bill in the past and never had troubles other than him being a bit scatterbrained at times. 


A couple of PMs exchanged with him and you immediatly see a pattern. Unfortunatly, I ordered too soon and too fast. Fortunatly, I was refunded after a 6 month waiting period.

 

Everytime someone tells me "it'll be in the mail tomorrow" I always remember of Bill eek.gif

 

 

post #32 of 43
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Originally Posted by xaval View Post

I'm really expecting to read some kind of explanation for the thread being locked. I'm sitting down and not holding my breath though.

Locked threads with no explanation don't help to clear matters.


I think I may have had something to do with that thread getting locked when I reported it. I thought calling his employer and whining like a little kid running to his mom that one of his siblings had just done this or that was crossing the line. Someone had already contacted his father twice. First by accident, but the second time was intentional. I know there are a lot of younger guys that post here that think testosterone and chutzpah is the way to make things happen, but sometimes that tact is more like trying to force a round peg into a square hole In general that thread was becoming somewhat of a venue to cook up ways to get back at Bill rather than get Bill to do the right thing.

 

I think your right though Xaval, whoever locked that thread should have posted their reasoning for doing so, or should have posted an admonition as to what was expected of the participants of the thread. Also it doesnt make sense why Bill wasnt banned, but perhaps banning him would have kept people who are owed something by him the inability to try and contact him via PM.

 

I think it would be a good gesture on Head Fi's part though, if they were the ones that put together a letter on behalf of the people that are still owed something. I dont know if it would do anything but it's an idea.

 

post #33 of 43

For those who are still "waiting", I'll suggest that you leave a kind reminder on Bill's voice mail if he doesn't pick up the phone.  Clear any anger out of your voice and mind before making the call.  Speak professionally and mention your agreement and how you held up your end of the agreement by sending him a payment.  Then, remind him that he still has to follow-through with his end of the agreement.  Possibly, you could repeat this process on a weekly basis until you get some resolution.  Though, I'm only really suggesting this process for those who have their headphones in Bill's possession - or, if their payment amount was more than $200.   If your transaction was much smaller (e.g. - $50 for a pair of cups), then, personally, I'd just let it go.  You'll feel much better distancing yourself from this mess.

 

Life is too short to get too wrapped up over a small amount.  I gave him a call over $10.00 - but, I also wanted to reach him on behalf of the group, not really to recovery my $10.00 - which turned out to be about $8.50 after the PayPal fees.  He's no longer posting here - though he hasn't been banned, I very much think that he'll never come back to this site - even if he tried to contribute, he wouldn't get such a warm welcome back feeling.

 

post #34 of 43

I'm almost certain he visits the forum - cops say that the criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. He probably just doesn't log in.

post #35 of 43

50-100 dollars might not mean much to some but not everyone here owns six hundred dollar rigs or starts off their headphone

 

journey by buying RS-2s. If he owes you a lot of money (very subjective here) then obviously there are ways, be it through legal

 

channels or shady channels (think Private Investigators tongue.gif) but I think a simple weekly reminder that he still owes you your

 

money like Kj said would eventually get him to pay you back. In the meantime go get a part-time job to try recover the loss.

 

 

 

post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by koolkat View Post

50-100 dollars might not mean much to some but not everyone here owns six hundred dollar rigs or starts off their headphone

 


I hear you, which is because I stated specifically $50, and less.  However, the "feelings" that it can harbor within a person worrying about it is not good.  Clearly, the damage that it can do to a single individual will be well greater than the $50 or $100.  This is why I've suggested to just "let it go."

 

In my area of work, I see people who might file discrimination cases against their employer.  The reality is that the case could take two years to process.  Does one person want to wake up each day wondering about the case?  It will get the best of them. Then, when their case finally comes up for review, the commission might determine that there is little if any merit to their case, so they vote to drop it.  However, then the complainant does have the opportunity to file an appeal.  The appeal process then starts things back up again.  But, most appeals don't result in the complainant getting what they desire and it gets shot down.

 

I do realize that it's all about the principal of the matter.  Yes, people were cheated.  However, I'm trying to make a point that life is too short to get too caught up in some things that we don't always have control over.  By no means am I a pushover in life.  If I find cause to get in someone's face because they've wronged me, I will.  But, there are also those other times when I back down and walk away - and really feel better about the situation because it was me that took the higher ground.

 

 

post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by xaval View Post

A couple of PMs exchanged with him and you immediatly see a pattern.

 

I generally try not to pass judgement too quickly, but after many PMs and conversations exchanged over a period of several months, I think I am fair in my assessment. 


 

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Originally Posted by KneelJung View Post

I think I may have had something to do with that thread getting locked when I reported it. I thought calling his employer and whining like a little kid running to his mom that one of his siblings had just done this or that was crossing the line. Someone had already contacted his father twice. First by accident, but the second time was intentional. I know there are a lot of younger guys that post here that think testosterone and chutzpah is the way to make things happen, but sometimes that tact is more like trying to force a round peg into a square hole In general that thread was becoming somewhat of a venue to cook up ways to get back at Bill rather than get Bill to do the right thing.

 

 

 

Cripes, is that seriously what the thread devolved into? I thought we were better than that.

post #38 of 43

^ lol

 

some people just really want their stuff back. not only money but some people actually sent him their only one headphone for him to mod it. I cant blame them. I dont think anyone is into this just to piss off Bill.

post #39 of 43

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post #40 of 43

Still no update on anyone's gear?

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I feel your pain. Wouldn't like to lose my Grados... So here's something to my fellow gradoheads!

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Originally Posted by RudeWolf View Post

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I feel your pain. Wouldn't like to lose my Grados... So here's something to my fellow gradoheads!


 

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post #43 of 43

I'm sorry, but we don't the discussion of moderation, for a number of reasons, so I'm going to have to close this. 

 

If any of you have unfinished business with Bill, you'll have to take it up with him by yourselves.

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