No offense taken.
And I want to make clear that while I respect everyone's opinions here, and I honestly do, I appreciate them even more when these opinions -- which then led to a final recommendation within a write up that at best should only be considered someone's first impressions -- are offered after a more exhaustive burn-in period.
Additionally, before any final opinions are dished out I would really prefer it if other ancillary accessories, which without question affect final outcome, are included. Is this too much to ask? Only then can a recommendation carry full weight and command my full respect.
Now, if after all this the reviewer's opinion still differs from mine... then I have no problem accepting it. Non whatsoever.
And trust me when I say that my original comments were not meant as an attack on ClieOS and it shouldn't be taken as such. It was meant as "constructive" criticism after I saw he went on to warn users of "bright" headphones to stay away only after a very short 24-hour period. So yes, constructive criticism was indeed necessary and should be appreciated, not frowned upon, because invariably (most) audio equipment's sound characteristics change over time once all internal components settle (yeh yeh even digital ones with computer chips I don't care that it shouldn't happen on paper. They do).
One a related note...there's one thing I have noticed quite a bit here on Head-Fi now that I've been back after a few years hiatus (and not necessarily involving people on this tread so don't even). So many here are way too "trigger happy" in offering full-scale reviews only five minutes after first cracking the box open! What 'da!!! It is hilarious but it really leaves me scratching my head. I guess everyone wants to be a professional reviewer? Let me tell you, it takes many years of experience and much discipline. But I digress.
As far as your "blank statement" comment I have not made any. Quite the opposite. I am trying to prevent them.
Originally Posted by Yuceka
That's my point. My bright may not be your bright and there are too many variables in this hobby that should make us cautious about making blank statements. After all the experiments with different phones I've come to realize that I prefer K701 over HD650 any day of the week. Now that's just a personal preference, not because I don't appreciate neutrality. Plus I've never understood why neutrality must be our aim while we use these headphones to enjoy music, and not mixing or recording purposes. If someone enjoys HD650 which I hated with a passion, who am I to say that they are wrong in liking a veiled or muffled headphone. There are different kinds of brightness too. I do not like Grados because their highs just rape my ears but my favorite headphones have been HifiMan HE-5 which is considered very bright by many here on head-fi.
I agree with your assessment on K701 and I liked them very much when I had them. Brightness or neutralness mean nothing when they are taken out of the context of the person's personal preference. If it puts a smile on your face, then Grados are the best headphones for you... I don't mean to pick a fight with you, it's just that I think Clieos' review should not be criticized because he found D-Zero a bit on the bright side. That is not a bad thing for a lot of people