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I have a not so good guitar with a floyd rose tremolo on it.

 

So basically every time I tune my guitar I have to unscrew screws on the "nut" or use the "fine tuners" on the tremolo.

 

Every time I turn the fine tuners, I think the tremolo also gets tighter. Basically I tunes every string (from high E to low E), but after I go back to check the high E it's out of tune, so I tune the high E, then all the others gets out of tune.

 

I think as I turn the fine tuning knobs, the tremolo is getting tighter or looser, so I never have a perfectly tuned guitar. How can I tune it?

post #2 of 5

In my experience, it's easiest to do the following:

1) Unlock the locking nut

2) Set all the fine tuners to a position where you have equal play in both directions

3) Tune the guitar with the machine heads, HOWEVER, do NOT tune it EADGBE, but instead use the following:

E - about 75 cents sharp

A - about 50 cents sharp

D - about 25 cents sharp

G - about 10-15 cents sharp

B - tune to B

E - tune to E

4) Lock the locking nut and then use the fine tuners to make small adjustments.

 

I've found this method, especially with my 7 string guitar saves me a lot of fine tuning (I set the low B string around a 100cent sharp) as once you lock the nut, everything is roughly at EADGBE so you don't have to keep faffing about trying to get the low strings in tune. You don't have to be super accurate with step 3, and it's easier to adjust than using the fine tuners anyway. If it makes it even easier, think of the bridge as a line balanced on a point. I prefer tuning in this order: E (low), E (high), A, B, D, G so you work from the outside in so as not to 'tip the scales', although it is always the lowest strings which get 'off balance' the easiest. With the machine heads you can usually tune E to E without too much of a problem though, then clamp it down and make the small changes with the fine tuners. 

 

Floating bridges are a PITA though, but it's the price you pay for wanting to abuse a whammy bar.


Edited by Somnambulist - 8/17/11 at 11:58am
post #3 of 5

I have a floyd, first thing I did when I got the guitar was block the damned thing, doesn't budge, tuning is no problem. They aren't worth the hassle and the restriction to 1 tuning in exchange for the odd dive bomb.

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Originally Posted by yliu View Post

I have a not so good guitar with a floyd rose tremolo on it.

 

So basically every time I tune my guitar I have to unscrew screws on the "nut" or use the "fine tuners" on the tremolo.

 

Every time I turn the fine tuners, I think the tremolo also gets tighter. Basically I tunes every string (from high E to low E), but after I go back to check the high E it's out of tune, so I tune the high E, then all the others gets out of tune.

 

I think as I turn the fine tuning knobs, the tremolo is getting tighter or looser, so I never have a perfectly tuned guitar. How can I tune it?

 

 

Everything you wanted to know about a Floyd Rose bridge, but were afraid to ask:

 

http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm

 

One thing to know: Tuning will likely involve going back and forth between the machine heads and the tremolo springs. You need to keep the bridge level, so as you add tension with the machine heads, you need to balance that with the trem springs. Start with the fine tuners in the middle position, and get the tuning as close as you can with the tuners. Lock the nuts, and fine tune. I took mine into the shop where I bought it, and it took their tech an hour to get it in tune. (It was a showroom guitar that everyone had been yanking on and was hopelessly out of tune.)

 

Also, when you change strings, change and tune one string at a time, making sure each string is well stretched before proceeding to the next one.

 

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Originally Posted by Somnambulist View Post

In my experience, it's easiest to do the following:

1) Unlock the locking nut

2) Set all the fine tuners to a position where you have equal play in both directions

3) Tune the guitar with the machine heads, HOWEVER, do NOT tune it EADGBE, but instead use the following:

E - about 75 cents sharp

A - about 50 cents sharp

D - about 25 cents sharp

G - about 10-15 cents sharp

B - tune to B

E - tune to E

4) Lock the locking nut and then use the fine tuners to make small adjustments.

 

I've found this method, especially with my 7 string guitar saves me a lot of fine tuning (I set the low B string around a 100cent sharp) as once you lock the nut, everything is roughly at EADGBE so you don't have to keep faffing about trying to get the low strings in tune. You don't have to be super accurate with step 3, and it's easier to adjust than using the fine tuners anyway. If it makes it even easier, think of the bridge as a line balanced on a point. I prefer tuning in this order: E (low), E (high), A, B, D, G so you work from the outside in so as not to 'tip the scales', although it is always the lowest strings which get 'off balance' the easiest. With the machine heads you can usually tune E to E without too much of a problem though, then clamp it down and make the small changes with the fine tuners. 

 

Floating bridges are a PITA though, but it's the price you pay for wanting to abuse a whammy bar.

 

I haven't tried this method yet with mine, but I've read this tip before.

 

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Originally Posted by PleasantNoise View Post

I have a floyd, first thing I did when I got the guitar was block the damned thing, doesn't budge, tuning is no problem. They aren't worth the hassle and the restriction to 1 tuning in exchange for the odd dive bomb.

 

This.^ I'm considering buying a Tremel-No for mine. Then again, I may just sell or trade it for something easier to deal with, although I love the neck on my Ibanez. (Plus, the odd dive bomb is kind of funbiggrin.gif)

post #5 of 5
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Originally Posted by beerguy0 View Post

 


 

This.^ I'm considering buying a Tremel-No for mine. Then again, I may just sell or trade it for something easier to deal with, although I love the neck on my Ibanez. (Plus, the odd dive bomb is kind of funbiggrin.gif)

I fell in love with ibby necks too, and just blocked the trem, then a year later ibanez comes out with a bunch of awesome hardtails ><

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