Maybe they're just new. 
 
If they're as good (at their price point) as some say they are, surely Challenger 
 
will stock them Just need to wait a couple of months.. or years. lol. 
 
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OH RIGHT you're the guy who went up against Audiohub. Good one lol.
 
Anyway, if you do some searching the thread is there, along with some mods and all that jazz. But apparently, Singapore doesn't like Superlux
 

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Wow great guide going to keep this thread in my favorites! 

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I'm surprised the Denon D1100 doesn't get more attention as a budget basshead can. I don't know how much it costs in the US (surely under $200?), but here it is cheaper than the HFi-580 and M50 and has "moar bass". Also to my ears it is slightly better all round than the XB500 and XB700.

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I dunno, I wasn't particularly impressed with them, thought mids and highs quality were actually pretty poor for the price. The mids were also very very recessed and they needed quite a lot of fiddling with EQ to sound optimal but even then I wasn't particularly impressed. But it'll also depend on how you want it to sound like. They have very large soundstage and great instrument separation for a fully closed headphone if that's your thing and the bass is strong but tight, it's not a deep bloated subbass but it's mostly mid-bass centered and I'd put it like in-between XB500 and XB700 beating XB700 just tiny bit in bass quantity (still XB700 has a lot better extension and more of very deep bass, <80Hz) while D1100 has A LOT more midbass (80~150Hz) humping/punch to it. But yea I still stand with my comments regarding the quality of mids and highs are poor on it and it needs a lot of EQing to sound optimal, XB series less so. Another aspect where they differ quite a lot is the presentation, D1100 is like you'd be sitting further back in the crowd in a concert and XB series are more closer to the stage sounding. Personally I'm not a big fan of this "distance" to my music but that's a personal preference. I don't see it worth more than $100~$110 or so tops even when disregarding my own personal taste in sound, against M50 it easily beats it in soundstage by a large shot but then I'd also say it loses quite a lot in quality of the mids and highs, at least mids.
 

 
I have heard them and they aren't bassy at all but I don't own them so I can't do a review =(
 
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Maybe you could try the Superlux HD681? It's supposedly bassy while being open-ish at the same time.

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I'll tell you what i'll borrow some D1100's from a friend, listen to them for a few weeks and write a review in a month. I enjoy collecting headphones but I already have some closed denons you know?


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I'm surprised the Denon D1100 doesn't get more attention as a budget basshead can. I don't know how much it costs in the US (surely under $200?), but here it is cheaper than the HFi-580 and M50 and has "moar bass". Also to my ears it is slightly better all round than the XB500 and XB700.
 
As for the XB1000, my opinion is save yourself some money and get the XB700 instead OR save up for D2000s or a Pro900.

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After reading this review, I decided to get a pair of D2000s, and I have to say, they're extremely impressive. They really don't sound like closed cans, and the bass extension is excellent (without it being overly emphasized IMHO - they actually sound fairly neutral to me, aside from perhaps slightly recessed highs). I haven't heard the Klipsch S4s mentioned earlier in the thread, but I do think that the 2000s complement my IE8s beautifully. I was looking for something with a similar sound signature to the IE8s, but in a full sized headphone, and the D2000 definitely sounds like it hits it just about perfectly (from the 2 days of listening I've had on it so far).

I'm glad I could help and enjoy your new headphones!
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After reading this review, I decided to get a pair of D2000s, and I have to say, they're extremely impressive. They really don't sound like closed cans, and the bass extension is excellent (without it being overly emphasized IMHO - they actually sound fairly neutral to me, aside from perhaps slightly recessed highs). I haven't heard the Klipsch S4s mentioned earlier in the thread, but I do think that the 2000s complement my IE8s beautifully. I was looking for something with a similar sound signature to the IE8s, but in a full sized headphone, and the D2000 definitely sounds like it hits it just about perfectly (from the 2 days of listening I've had on it so far).

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i have been lurking these forums for quite some time and i think i've finally made a decision about which headphones im gonna buy thanks to your guide!

WOW. This is such a great post.

Thanks for the support guys =D
 
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i have been lurking these forums for quite some time and i think i've finally made a decision about which headphones im gonna buy thanks to your guide!

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WOW. This is such a great post.

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Great guide.

Nice lineup, although I'm not sure how you can call basshead cans "accurate" or "balanced".  Bassy headphones that satisfy either of those requirements are contradictory. 

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Nice lineup, although I'm not sure how you can call basshead cans "accurate" or "balanced".  Bassy headphones that satisfy either of those requirements are contradictory. 

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Honestly, it seems like a lot of people on head-fi don't understand what a truly accurate sound is. What a lot of people here would classify as bassy is actually much closer to accurate than the extremely bright sound favored by many. The Denons sound fairly close to my stereo system, which I've measured as flat (aside from a couple irritating room resonances that I've done my best to control) from 22-18k. That's part of the reason I looked at a "basshead buyers guide" when looking for new headphones - I want a fairly neutral sound, but an actual neutral sound needs bass presence and extension beyond what a lot of headphones are capable of.

I did not know that! Thanks for educating me =) I'm more proud to be a basshead than ever!
 
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Honestly, it seems like a lot of people on head-fi don't understand what a truly accurate sound is. What a lot of people here would classify as bassy is actually much closer to accurate than the extremely bright sound favored by many. The Denons sound fairly close to my stereo system, which I've measured as flat (aside from a couple irritating room resonances that I've done my best to control) from 22-18k. That's part of the reason I looked at a "basshead buyers guide" when looking for new headphones - I want a fairly neutral sound, but an actual neutral sound needs bass presence and extension beyond what a lot of headphones are capable of.

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Thanks SennheiserHD for explaining everything very clear and understandable to the non-audiophiles around here to help us choose which headphone is right for us. Keep up the good work.

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Honestly, it seems like a lot of people on head-fi don't understand what a truly accurate sound is. What a lot of people here would classify as bassy is actually much closer to accurate than the extremely bright sound favored by many. The Denons sound fairly close to my stereo system, which I've measured as flat (aside from a couple irritating room resonances that I've done my best to control) from 22-18k. That's part of the reason I looked at a "basshead buyers guide" when looking for new headphones - I want a fairly neutral sound, but an actual neutral sound needs bass presence and extension beyond what a lot of headphones are capable of.

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I can see your point - bass quantitiy is very subjective in terms of perception.  However, the "basshead's buying guide" implies that the headphones mentioned in the OP are categorically not neutral and therefore not accurate.  If "basshead" cans are neutral, then they aren't "basshead" cans.  If "basshead" cans were accurate and/or neutral, every other headphone that doesn't meet the description of "basshead" would be (through process of elimination) bright and trebly and there would be no "basshead" headphones. 
 
Having said that, bass extension is always a positive trait so long as the bass amplitude isn't out of proportion with the rest of the freqeuencies.  The Denon's are a good example of fantastic bass extension and have a gradual downward slope in frequency response from low to high similar to Sennheiser.  Headphones like the XB series from Sony have extension, but far too much bass quantity, ultimately rendering them incredibly unbalanced and inaccurate.  Same can be said about the DT770 - the sub-bass frequencies are elevated above "flat" relative to other frequencies in general.