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post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 

I'm DANISH, these are the best prices I can get.

 

I play FPS a lot and I need a good sound card for positioning. At the same time, I enjoy music, so I'd like a card that doesn't suck for normal clarity and such. I use AD700's for FPS gaming, but it also has to support my 5.1 surround speakers.

I have these options:

$100 - Asus Xonar DX
$110 - Creative Titanium (non-HD)
$145 - AuzenTech Bravura
$160 - Asus Xonar D2X
$160 - AuzenTech Forte

Now, I'd really prefer not to have to pay $160 for a sound card and the Xonars are known for having bad positioning in BC2 (although I could probably live with that if necessary), so I'm leaning towards the Bravura which seems to be a good choice, but I honestly have no idea what's good and what's bad.


Edited by Bi0HaZard - 8/13/11 at 4:52pm
post #2 of 34

Asus Xonar DX and D1 have a $20 mail-in rebate this month.

The Xonar DG has a $10 rebate.

All can be ordered with no tax and free shipping (U.S.A.)

post #3 of 34
Thread Starter 

But I'm not American which is why I listed a bunch of prices that are way higher than in the US.

post #4 of 34

Creative X-Fi Titanium (non HD) can be had for little over $80, or less than $50 if refurb.

 

But overall, those prices seem a bit high.

post #5 of 34
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Originally Posted by Roller View Post

Creative X-Fi Titanium (non HD) can be had for little over $80, or less than $50 if refurb.

 

But overall, those prices seem a bit high.


 

Possibly the most unlucky timing ever seen. As I said above, no, it can't be had for $80. I could get it for $110 though, but wouldn't it be better to get the Bravura?


Edited by Bi0HaZard - 8/13/11 at 4:58pm
post #6 of 34

Not really. The Bravura is based on a lower chip version, and while having overall higher quality components is important, for the price difference you'd be better served with the Forte.

 

EDIT: You can order online, and even taking shipping expenses in account, it should give you better prices.

post #7 of 34
Thread Starter 

So, basically, Forte or low-end?

 

EDIT: There's nothing cheaper. I have prices from Denmark, Germany and the UK, there's nothing less expensive in Europe (at least that I can find). Trust me, if I was only talking about the local electronics store, I wouldn't have these options at all. Audio equipment is at least 50% more expensive in Denmark than USA which is why I often import from other European countries. I paid $165 for AD700's and I had to import them from the UK to get them at that price. Mainly because they don't exist on the Danish market, but also because the German stores had almost run out of stock (=higher prices).


Edited by Bi0HaZard - 8/13/11 at 5:08pm
post #8 of 34

Well, the thing is that the regular X-Fi Titanium has a second generation real X-Fi DSP chip, while the Bravura is based on a quite low end X-Fi card that doesn't even have a real X-Fi chip. So what Bravura has going for it is the higher quality components, but basically you're between Forte and regular Titanium.

post #9 of 34

I wish Creative would stop doing that with the X-Fi brand. In my book, if it doesn't have the EMU20k1 (PCI) or EMU20k2 (PCI-Express), it isn't a real X-Fi device. It's not the first time Creative's done it, either; they've been doing this since the Audigy and Live! days.

 

Though it is baffling as to why Auzentech would not give the Bravura the EMU20k2 when the Forte and HomeTheater HD got it...I thought they were supposed to be making top-of-the-line cards. (Then again, given the capacitor issues some complain about with the Forte, and which may also affect my own, albeit only on the front panel output...)

 

Your best shot still seems like the Forte in spite of that and the high price (especially given that mine only cost $90 used, right here on Head-Fi), since the general accepted pecking order for X-Fi cards and headphone users, in terms of sound quality, is:

 

1) Creative Titanium HD (as long as you only need stereo output in analog; surround only provided through S/PDIF and DDL or DTS Connect)

2) Auzentech Forte (probably HomeTheater HD too, but if you're getting that card, you're probably not going to use the analog outputs)

3) Creative Titanium non-HD

post #10 of 34

Creative? You can go with many many brands, but since we're talking about computer hardware, let's just keep in mind that both ATI and Nvidia do it as well. Oh, and the Titanium HD as a third generation X-Fi chip, newer than EMU10K2.

post #11 of 34
I play BC2 and am fine with Xonar DX using Dolby Headphone. In fact, I prefer it over my now sold Forte and CMSS 3D. Just my 2 cents.
post #12 of 34

I just bought the Soundblaster F-xi Titanium HD and all I can say is I'm telling you that you wil be highly impressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hear sounds in my games and music I never heard before.  Worth every bit of the $150.00 I spent on it! 

post #13 of 34
Thread Starter 

What headphones are you using for that?

post #14 of 34

Have you considered the Asus Xonar DG, they have dropped to $23.00 in the U.S.A., not sure what shipping charges would be for Denmark.

It has Dolby and will support 5.1 speaker setup and has a headphone amp. and uses GS version 2.5 which is for emulating EAX 5.0.

The Xonar DG uses the C-Media CMI8786 audio chip, It's a slightly older chip design then the C-Media CMI8788 which is used in all the other Xonar cards.

 

 

post #15 of 34

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roller View Post

Creative? You can go with many many brands, but since we're talking about computer hardware, let's just keep in mind that both ATI and Nvidia do it as well. Oh, and the Titanium HD as a third generation X-Fi chip, newer than EMU10K2.


I've seen nothing that suggests this. There's only two generations I've seen, one for PCI, one for PCI-Express, and both "EMU20k2" and "CA20k2" seem to be used interchangeably.

 

The Titanium HD's performance improvements seem to stem from a different driver set and overall better components.

 

(And yes, lots of tech companies do the rebadging thing. GeForce 8 Series -> GeForce 9 Series, anyone?)

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