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post #691 of 937

No.  Don't think of them as TV's. 

post #692 of 937
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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

Wow which HP is the second "TV"?  

It's just a single impulse visualized in a waterfall plot:

impulse.png

 

The first one, in principle, is the response of a headphone that is fed a single impulse, aka impulse response (again visualized in a waterfall plot). Here's an example impulse response:

impulse_response.png

 

(Note that that the ringing above is not due to resonances.)


Edited by xnor - 6/19/12 at 10:42am
post #693 of 937
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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

Wow which HP is the second "TV"?  

 

None; no HP even comes close. That is the conceptually perfect sound but even if something can be made to produce it, individual anatomical variances would still distort it in real life.

 

Something like this

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(Senn HD800 with mod) is currently as close to that as there is in the headphone world. As you can see, that is way off still.


Edited by jerg - 6/19/12 at 10:28am
post #694 of 937

So a dynamic driver has the title for fastest IR / decay??

post #695 of 937

Decay has more to do with the damping than the driver technology imo, although there's certain aspects like the magnetic structure on either side of a planar magnetic making it hard to implement damping.

 

I believe based off Purrin's graphs, the SR-009's treble barely edges the HD-800's out for fastest decaying.

post #696 of 937
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Decay has more to do with the damping than the driver technology imo, although there's certain aspects like the magnetic structure on either side of a planar magnetic making it hard to implement damping.

 

I believe based off Purrin's graphs, the SR-009's treble barely edges the HD-800's out for fastest decaying.

 

009's treble has some funky resonance microridges though. Also that weird 500 Hz hump that starts at 3 ms, dunno what that's about.


Edited by jerg - 6/19/12 at 10:46am
post #697 of 937

Which HP has been the best so far?

post #698 of 937

Not sure if "best" is the right word. Different people have different priorities that place varying degrees of value on different aspects of headphones.

 

For example, the HD800 has some of the cleanest (free of ringing/resonances) CSDs ever, but many people cannot get over their FR. So, if you prioritize fast, clean decay, then you may think the HD800 is the best dynamic. But if you can't stand the hot treble, you may prefer something like the HD650 or LCD-2, even if the CSDs don't look quite as clean. 

post #699 of 937
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Originally Posted by Questhate View Post

For example, the HD800 has some of the cleanest (free of ringing/resonances) CSDs ever, but many people cannot get over their FR. So, if you prioritize fast, clean decay, then you may think the HD800 is the best dynamic. But if you can't stand the hot treble, you may prefer something like the HD650 or LCD-2, even if the CSDs don't look quite as clean. 

 

Or use an equalizer to tame the treble. Or try some mods. But I agree entirely, if the FR sucks the cleanest waterfall plots won't make the headphone sound great.

post #700 of 937
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Originally Posted by Questhate View Post

Not sure if "best" is the right word. Different people have different priorities that place varying degrees of value on different aspects of headphones.

 

For example, the HD800 has some of the cleanest (free of ringing/resonances) CSDs ever, but many people cannot get over their FR. So, if you prioritize fast, clean decay, then you may think the HD800 is the best dynamic. But if you can't stand the hot treble, you may prefer something like the HD650 or LCD-2, even if the CSDs don't look quite as clean. 

 

Yes.  It depends on what bothers you and what you find more important.  And then for me, it's a balancing act, while some things are more bothersome than others, no one aspect will make a headphone sound great. 

post #701 of 937
Thread Starter 

Beyer T5P

 

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No comment.

post #702 of 937

Ouch.

post #703 of 937

Whoa... don't let that fall down on you with all those spikes...dangerous...lol

post #704 of 937
Looks like someone at Beyer trust his ears more than his his dummy head wink.gif
post #705 of 937

Looks like the peaks of the Guilin Mountain range in China....

 

 

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