I've decided, thanks to the help provided in the headphones board, to grab a pair of Ultrasone HFI-580's, and learned that I would likely need a sound card that has some kind of headphone amp in order to use the 580's to their full potential. In addition, I've been looking to upgrade my speaker setup for a while now and figured I might as well get all of this stuff at once. Since I'm already looking to dish out $130 for the 580's, I don't want to spend any more than $100 on the total of the sound card and speakers ($100 for both, not each). I was looking at the Xonar DG and these speakers but I'm not so sure about either of these. I've heard that the Xonar DG is great for headphones, but that it's probably lacking for everything else. Also I don't know just how good those speakers are, or if it's even worth upgrading what I already have (Logitech X-140's). I was looking to get something with a sub that sounds reasonably better than my current speakers hooked up to my motherboard's onboard sound (Realtek "HD audio", or ACL888).
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post #2 of 16
8/12/11 at 5:16pm
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If I might offer an option, Get the Superlux HD-668B headphones (not knocking the HFI-580s), you will save a lot of money.
For a sound card, the Asus Xonar DX, currently there is a $20 mail in rebate.
Total, about $115 (after mail-in)
Speakers, how about M-Audio AV 30s.
Total about $205
Edited by Tacoboy - 8/12/11 at 5:35pm
I looked into the 668B's and I don't think I'd be as happy with those as I would be with the HFI-580's. Maybe there's some kind of middle-ground pair of headphones between the two that is more comparable to the HFI-580 in terms of quality, but otherwise I'm pretty confident with my choice.
As for the Xonar DX and the AV30's, I'm pretty sure the DX doesn't have any headphone amp while the Xonar DG does, and the M-Audio AV30's (which would be out of my price range anyway unless I was able to find a less expensive, comparable headphone to the 580's) don't have a sub as I said I was looking for.
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8/12/11 at 9:56pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DSG3002 

I looked into the 668B's and I don't think I'd be as happy with those as I would be with the HFI-580's. Maybe there's some kind of middle-ground pair of headphones between the two that is more comparable to the HFI-580 in terms of quality, but otherwise I'm pretty confident with my choice.
As for the Xonar DX and the AV30's, I'm pretty sure the DX doesn't have any headphone amp while the Xonar DG does, and the M-Audio AV30's (which would be out of my price range anyway unless I was able to find a less expensive, comparable headphone to the 580's) don't have a sub as I said I was looking for.
I've been using my new Superlux HD-668B headphones for a week.
To me they match the sound quality of my Beyerdynamic DT-770 250-Ohm headphones. Using my 6922EH tube amp. and Onkyo receiver as sources.
Everyone says the Xonar DX does have an headphone amp. But my Xonar DX powers my DT-770 80-Ohm headphones just fine.
The Xonar DX can even power my DT-770 250-Ohm headphones, not overly loud and with all the volumes turned up max.
So I'm guess the Xonar DX has a headphone amp. but it's not advertised because they sell the Xonar DX for 5.1/7.1 speakers setups.
I'm guessing Asus does not want the DX stealing market share from their more expensive cards (D2, D2X, Essence, Essence ST, etc.)
The DG uses an older audio chip then what the DX has.
But for what your doing, the DG should do a fair job.
For the price range your looking at, no 2.1 speaker setup is going to even a half way decent sub-woofer.
With the M-Audio AV30, at least your getting a speaker with a decent size woofer.
post #5 of 16
8/12/11 at 10:40pm
Ouch that Cyber Acoustics 2.1 looks exactly the kind of PC speakers i would tell peeps to avoid : poor SQ and at best with that pc speaker sub : low quality/muddy base and prolly soft too hehe
I support the Asus DG idea as that would play reasonably well with cans as well as speakers so perhaps off partsexpress
when u have more $$ (or are a bit of a basshead) look to add a real hifi standard sub woofer
Done right you have the best of both worlds i.e decent mids/highs and tight/high quality bass 
edit : oops if you dun have speaker wire idling at home simply hit these
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=109-040
If u think you need a lot more beef/future surround options in future you could also dip into used AV receivers/stereo amps (Craiglist for example) and one could fish something decent even with $50 hehe
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ele/2544299995.html
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/htr/htr-5550_black__u/?mode=model
Edited by trog - 8/12/11 at 10:53pm
So you're saying to get the Xonar DG to go with the HFI-580's, along with the speaker setup in that pic?
Am I going to notice much of a difference between those B652 speakers over my current setup? Also, how necessary is the audio amplifier?
Sorry for all of the questions, I really don't know much (if anything) about this kind of stuff. ._.
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8/12/11 at 10:55pm
Well even with clean 12-15W into 8ohm per channel via Tripath TA2020, these bookshelf would offer far greater clarity than PC speakers hehe I have set up several now like these and for small rooms, dorms, work area and PC audio they are awesome! An amp is required if you hit any/all passive bookshelf speakers
Alright, so I would be plugging the speakers directly into the amp, and then the amp to the Xonar DG in my computer? Just want to make sure.
Also, for future reference about the sub, what should I be looking at that will be compatible with this setup you've recommended me? I'd probably spend no more than $80 on it, unless it's like a year by the time I can afford it and I'd probably dish out more than that. Even if I had $500 to spend on a sub, though, I don't need some giant 30" sub that's going to shake a room; just enough to give a punch at really high volumes, and is enjoyable at any volume.
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8/12/11 at 11:24pm
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For the price you pay for the seperate speakers, amplifier and cable, plus ($10-$20) shipping. you could get the M-Audios.
Except wouldn't these speakers be higher quality than the M-Audios anyway? Also the total in the cart (with the additional wiring) is only $61, so... it's still cheaper. Plus I'm getting it with the DG instead of the DX, so I'm not spending as much towards the sound card.
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8/13/11 at 12:48am
Well that amp accepts analog in only so 3.5mm/RCA from onboard mobo sound or soundcard to amp then speaker wire from speaker output amp to speakers
Hmm entry level/budget subs have a looks at the Polk/Dayton offerings You could feed high level input via speaker wire from amp to almost all sub
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8/13/11 at 12:50am
what about a recommendation for a good 2.1 system now with extremely good heavy bass. I listen to trance and sometimes techno, alot of bass heavy songs. I prefer heavy bass over quality bass. The 2.1 system MUST HAVE a subwoofer bass adjustment control Please recommend if you guys have one in mind. Currently my dollar is on :
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8/13/11 at 12:52am
O_o that is about $230 new so best open a thread stating your exact needs so peeps can offer more relevant advise me thinks
For me once u hit $200 i would either go passive + amp or active monitors and a proper hifi sub hehe
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8/13/11 at 1:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DSG3002 

Except wouldn't these speakers be higher quality than the M-Audios anyway? Also the total in the cart (with the additional wiring) is only $61, so... it's still cheaper. Plus I'm getting it with the DG instead of the DX, so I'm not spending as much towards the sound card.
$61 does not include any sales tax or shipping charge, which could be another $10-$25.
You can get the M-Audio AV 30s for $88, no sales tax and free shipping.
you can still get the DG, (it has a $10 mail-in rebate) with the M-Audio, both can be ordered with free shipping and no sales tax, total about $109 (after rebate).
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Originally Posted by Tacoboy 

$61 does not include any sales tax or shipping charge, which could be another $10-$25.
You can get the M-Audio AV 30s for $88, no sales tax and free shipping.
you can still get the DG, (it has a $10 mail-in rebate) with the M-Audio, both can be ordered with free shipping and no sales tax, total about $109 (after rebate).
Well I don't know if the AV30s are going to be better/worse than the setup trog suggested since I'm not really familiar.
Do either of you know (trog or tacoboy) which setup would be better, both in terms of sound quality and upgradability for the future?
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