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B2's were extremely disappointing. Looking for help with new iem.

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

So I got my B2's and I was expecting godly, neutral sound. That was not the case.

 

Now, I'm sure many people love the sound of the B2's and it seems many on head-fi agree that it is a "neutral" IEM, but for me it was nowhere near that mark. The reason?

 

THERE WAS NO BASS.

 

Everything else sounded just wonderful, except for the non-existent low-end. Like, sure, I could "hear" it but it was more of a "flop" sound rather than a "boom". The bass is there, but only when you listening to a bass-only song on high volume. But when I play Rock, DnB, or metal, I can't turn up the low-end without causing the mids and highs to become fatiguing. In my perspective, I cannot understand how this can be regarded as neutral, when there is complete lack of bass. The largest reason why I found these bass-light is because my K701's have more bass than these. And 701's are thrown around here on head-fi as having "no bass".

 

Now incase you're wondering, I tested these with my electronic drumkit, which was supposed to be the main purpose of these IEM's. This was where the bass from the bass drum would sound like more of a "flop" rather than a healthy " boom". So far I have been using a speaker monitor, and that is generally my benchmark in terms of the sound sig I am looking for.

 

So, you can clearly see that I am not happy with these at all. Which leads me to look for another iem, with hopefully more bass presence.

 

TL;DR,

 

looking for IEM with:

 

- same price range as B2, $100 - $200

- More bass than B2
- good high extension, ( no veil in upper range, which I have found with more lower-end IEM's.)

- after further consideration, I have decided I would prefer a warmer sound, but is not a necessity

- little microphonics

 

Or more simply, a B2, with more bass.

 

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

 

 

 

post #2 of 18

sony mdr ex600 or vsonic gr07

post #3 of 18

GR07 for sure.  I bought both in the last two months and I think the GR07 is significantly better all around.

post #4 of 18

dont know about  B2 but Vsonic gr07 sound great and have bass no doubt

post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 

Looks like i'm most probably getting a GR07. :)

 

Where can I order a GR07? Is there a way to get it in Canada?

post #6 of 18

I agree with the GR07 pick.

post #7 of 18

b2 has bass reaching down to 25-20hz. you just didnt get a good fit. b2 sounds real good. try using shure olives

post #8 of 18

GR07 can be bought from LendmeURears, ww.earphones on Ebay (may not be authorized) and I think if you look in the appreciation thread or the where to buy thread you will find another ebay resler who is authorized. I got mine from ww.earphone and they arrived in less than 2 weeks (I live in Canada too).

 

BTW I shied away from the DBA2 because I had it on authority from several experienced members that based on my current preferences I would find it to bass light so I avoided that route and I think they were likely right. The GR07 on the hand does have excellent sub-bass and texture. BUT if your wanting a mid-bass hump you will be disappointed. Personally I LOVE the lack of that hump as I find it make an IEM sound boomy when it's present.


Edited by dweaver - 8/13/11 at 11:56am
post #9 of 18
I'm going to have to agree that there is definitely some issue with yours, either fit or faulty drivers because I expected them to have pretty much no bass but I was pleasantly surprised with decent body and even moreso with good texture. I'm going to have to disagree about them going down to 20hz, i can hear 20hz just not on the B2's. Maybe if you turn them up to very unsafe listening levels but that test is useless. Also, they seemed reasonably neutral to me.

Now onto the meat of this post, i'm going to have to also agree with the above posters about the GR07. Especially for the purpose of your drum kit as they fantastically reproduce drums, as a poster on the GR07 thread pointed out. Dweaver is absolutely right about the lack of a midbass hump so don't say you weren't warned.

Looking into the Sony EX600's couldn't possibly hurt either.

Edit: I don't find the GR07 to be a B2 with more bass though as the treble is not the focal point but mores because I find the presentation to be immensely different. Different enough to come back here and post this edit.
Edited by vwinter - 8/13/11 at 1:15pm
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffroyroycole View Post

I recently owned the B2s and while they are not overly bassy IEMs, saying they have no bass is just not accurate. My guess is fit, because it sounds like people on Amazon who get deep insertion IEMs and then wear them improperly. Try a triple flange tip with them, the Etys are great, and the bass is there. No, they are no DDM1s or other bassy dynamics, but they are not RE0s either. You are not hearing them for what they are.


I tried them with ety flanges and the complies that came with them. I put them in any way possible. Still no difference. I stuck deep in my ear and even tried upside down. Still no bass.

 



Quote:
Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

GR07 can be bought from LendmeURears, ww.earphones on Ebay (may not be authorized) and I think if you look in the appreciation thread or the where to buy thread you will find another ebay resler who is authorized. I got mine from ww.earphone and they arrived in less than 2 weeks (I live in Canada too).

 

BTW I shied away from the DBA2 because I had it on authority from several experienced members that based on my current preferences I would find it to bass light so I avoided that route and I think they were likely right. The GR07 on the hand does have excellent sub-bass and texture. BUT if your wanting a mid-bass hump you will be disappointed. Personally I LOVE the lack of that hump as I find it make an IEM sound boomy when it's present.

If you mean a mid-bass hump like the AKG K240, Than I think I'd be more than happy without that. Right now my other alternative is the K240 and the mid-bass bloat is really quite bothersome.
 

 

post #11 of 18
Yes that was what I meant and if that's how you feel you will really like the Gr07. I am reviewing 4 lower priced IEM's a most have that mid bass and it's driving me crazy. Having said that I am not familiar enough with the K240 to know what it's mid-bass is like.
Edited by dweaver - 8/13/11 at 1:33pm
post #12 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2enty3 View Post




I tried them with ety flanges and the complies that came with them. I put them in any way possible. Still no difference. I stuck deep in my ear and even tried upside down. Still no bass.

 


Shure Foamies?  IDK if you've tried those yet, or if they'll fit. 

 

post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

Does anyone know if fakes exist?

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vsonic-GR07-R07-Professional-earphone-IEM-ear-/320741178128?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4aada9fb10

 

not sure if authorized seller..... he says he is...

post #14 of 18

To fake those specific models of headphone would be a waste of time.  The fakers wouldn't make money off of them, they aren't popular enough. 

post #15 of 18
The GR07 sounds perfect for you. The bass is very satisfying without overpowering the mids.
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