Official Ipod Video / Classic 5g+5.5g+6g+6.5g+7g SSD Mod thread
Nov 21, 2016 at 9:14 PM Post #8,658 of 10,664
Can someone please give me a hand with my iPod Classic 6th generation?  It's the thick 160gb version.
 
I replaced the HDD with a KingSpec acsc2m128msa using the inexpensive eBay zif adapter as well as the necessary flex cable, but I still get a red "X" when everything is connected.
 
The iPod will not show up on a computer when it's connected to the USB.
 
I can get into diagnostics, but cannot for the life of me switch it to disk mode.
 
Here are the HDD diags:
 


 
 
So it sees the SSD.  I tried plugging in the ZIF adapter on its own to see if it was just reading the JMICRON chip on the adapter, but no, it is most certainly seeing the SSD, because without it being inserted, it doesn't find any HDD and says cannot open device from the menu or something like that.
 
Nov 21, 2016 at 9:18 PM Post #8,659 of 10,664
Can someone give me a hand with a red X error that won't go away.
 
This is an iPod 6th gen, and I'm using the JMicron adapter with a Kingspec acsc2m128msa
 
The iPod sees the HDD if it's in diag mode.
 
Here are the outputs:
 
HDD SPEC
[Device Opened]
 
SNO: 802815
FW Revision: P0 1 B
LBAs: 0xec00000
 
and the SMART:
 
SMART DATA
Retracts: 28
Reallocs: 0
 
PowerOn Hours: 0
Temp: Current 26C
Temp: Min 0C
Temp: Max 0C
 
The HDD was formatted and partitioned properly with AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard Edition 6.0 per the instructions available online.
 
Cannot for the life of me get into disk mode, and the computer will not see the iPod at all when it's plugged into the USB, though it does charge.
 
Any help is greatly appreciated
 
EDIT:
 
This might have something to do with it:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/8475#post_12947206
 
 Generic green adapter doesnt work in 7th and 6th gen. iPod classic, you can use it in 5th iPod Video... Only Tarkans msata to zif adapter work in 6th and 7th iPod Classic...

 
EDIT #2:
 
This doesn't seem to have something to do with the JM20330 chip per se, but rather with that particular adapter design.

There's a company called "Fashion Sprout" who hocks their wares on AliExpress and eBay who have an M2 NGFF version of an adapter with a JM20330 chip and they have a screenshot of it working on a 7th Gen classic in iTunes.

Since the iPod does recognize the drive (though it gives a jibberish LBA value), is it possible to manipulate the partition table to get it to work with the 6th gen iPod, or is the only other choice to shell out $40 for Tarkan's adapter?
 
EDIT #3:
 
It's interesting that some older iPods do work with the JM20330-based adapters but the newer ones don't.  If the default firmware was flashed with Rockbox, thus allowing for 48-Bit LBA, perhaps then the generic adapter would work.  This could in theory be accomplished inexpensively by purchasing a CompactFlash to ZIF adapter board, temporarily using some old CF card to get the iPod working and then flashing Rockbox, and then trying the generic green adapter again.
 
Any opinions on this?
 
Still not clear on whether there is any correlation to whether the JM20330 simply doesn't work on devices with newer hardware, or it has something to do with firmware.  Because it does see *something* in DIAG mode when it's connected, except that it's jibberish.
 
EDIT #4:
 
Well, there might be a correlation, but it's just conjecture until someone tests it out.  From Tarkan's site:
 
  1. 6g Classic (80gb Thin) ** Maximum 128Gb for iTunes
  2. 6.5g Classic (160gb Thick) ** Maximum 128Gb for iTunes
  3. 7g (120gb Thin) ** Maximum 128Gb for iTunes
 
So the 5, 5.5, and 7.5 all support >128GB, and surprise, surprise, the generic green adapter works on the 5 and 5.5, and there are some reports from China that it works on the 7.5 as well.
 
If this is the case, then one could ostensibly purchase the generic adapter as well as the CF adapter for around $10 and save quite a bit if RockBox would indeed fix the incompatibility between the JM20330 and LBA28 iPods.
 
EDIT #5:
 
With regard to "Fashion Sprout", they have since ceased selling their Tarkan iFlash look-alike adapter on AliExpress and now only sell some combo packaged as an SSD which they claim is compatible with all iPods.  But what probably happened is that they've had to take their product off the market after people complained of incompatibility.
 
There's a thorough write-up at http://www.vokc.tk/?p=103 which in fact acknowledges that the 'counterfeit' Tarkan adapter does not work with LBA28 iPods (and it's also based on the JM20330).

Perhaps their newer design might have eliminated signal interference that Tarkan mentioned in a seperate post (though not the inherent deficiencies he claimed were present in the JM20330), but it's irelevant, as Fashion Sprout absolutely refuses to sell these (contacted them on Taobao).

It's also worth noting that Tarkan is probably correct when he states that these JM20330 ICs are probably not JMicron parts, or perhaps they're reproductions, because if you look on AliExpress, you can see some of these adapters with the same chip but with different markings.

If anyone has a Rockbox iPod 6 with the LBA limitation removed, would you be willing to test your iPod with the generic adapter?
 
Nov 22, 2016 at 1:14 AM Post #8,660 of 10,664
so I just got my 2000 mah battery, plugged it into the ipod and now it's looping back and forth from a dim screen that says very low battery and a lit screen with a triangle and exclamation mark, and an ipod video with a sad face on it, underneath there is a link to apple support. 
 
if i leave it in the wall for a bit and let it turn on, it tells me to plug it into a computer to restore it. I do that, and my computer makes the chirp to let me know its connected, but 30 seconds later the ipod shuts down again. I cannot see the device in my disk manager, the HP recovery utility doesnt recognize it, it doesnt show up in the my computer screen. iTunes doesnt do anything when i plug it in either.
 
i have a white ipod 5.5g and a black ipod 5.5g. using the battery and the adapter on either one has the same exact results. the computer knows its an ipod, because for either ipod it installs the drivers for it.
 
anyone encounter this before? i've used all my usb cables, all the ports on both my pcs and laptop, most of the outlets in the house. it's definitely not a usb or cable issue. going into disk mode only brings me to the sad face ipod, and it turns off after a few seconds. I'm using a tarkan adapter with a 32 gb CF card. 
 
Nov 22, 2016 at 3:43 AM Post #8,662 of 10,664
   
Its faulty, get a replacement or refund.

I don't think so. I forgot to mention that I also had a few other batteries about this same time last year, and I had the same exact issue. I gave up and put the project on the shelf until now. Normally it wouldnt really be an issue for me to return it, only problem is the seller is in China, so i'd have to wait another 2 weeks for it to arrive.
 
edit: also might consider just buying a different ipod from craigslist to see if maybe my two ipods are just busted, if if i have a faulty adapter or CF card. going to meet a guy tomorrow about it.
 
Nov 22, 2016 at 4:53 AM Post #8,663 of 10,664
  Thats incredible! I ordered two so i hope they come soon.

 
 
  I had never emptied it before. :wink: If your batteries run like mine you certainly will love them.
 
Regards.


I use the same battery as iMig and can testify to its greatness. At a rough guess I would say I'm getting around the same as iMig's test.
 
On the subject of batteries, regulars of this thread may remember I was fairly critical of Alex a while back. Well, in fairness to him I should report that the battery I ordered from him 7 months ago recently arrived out of the blue with no accompanying explanation. The postmark indicated it was posted recently, so it wasn't a mail delay. This is despite him refunding me through Paypal months ago. So he came through in the end, albeit very belatedly. 
 
Nov 24, 2016 at 5:34 AM Post #8,664 of 10,664
so there's definetely something wrong with my ipods. when i connect them to the pc in recovery mode, it chirps and after 30 seconds it disconnects. only AFTER it disconnects, itunes tells me that there's an ipod in recovery mode. there is no way for me to interact with it while it's connected. is there any method of installing ipod software onto a hard drive without connecting the ipod to a pc? like directly from the CF card to my pc with an adapter and then putting the CF card into the ipod after its installed?
 
Nov 25, 2016 at 6:43 AM Post #8,665 of 10,664
Hi guys,
 
I've had a good read through as many pages on this thread as I can....
 
I'd like to upgrade to an SSD on my Ipod classic 7g 160gb as the original hard drive has died. Which parts do I need to complete the job bearing in mind I am from the Uk? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
Thanks!
 
Nov 26, 2016 at 10:02 AM Post #8,666 of 10,664
  Hi guys,
 
I've had a good read through as many pages on this thread as I can....
 
I'd like to upgrade to an SSD on my Ipod classic 7g 160gb as the original hard drive has died. Which parts do I need to complete the job bearing in mind I am from the Uk? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
Thanks!

You probably read the first pages when SSD was still the way to go. Nowadays the best option is to go for an SD card. The easiest option is to buy an adaptor from Tarkan, I think he ships from the UK. He also has a list of recommended SD cards on his site. If you feel a bit more adventurous and won't to spend a bit less you can also look for an SD to ZIF adaptor on Aliexpress or ebay. 
 
Nov 26, 2016 at 2:48 PM Post #8,667 of 10,664
Hi guys,

I've had a good read through as many pages on this thread as I can....

I'd like to upgrade to an SSD on my Ipod classic 7g 160gb as the original hard drive has died. Which parts do I need to complete the job bearing in mind I am from the Uk? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!


Go to iFlash.com and check out his iPod adapters. He started with just a Compact Flash adapter and now has a few more options on there.
 
Nov 27, 2016 at 6:13 PM Post #8,669 of 10,664
  where can i get my hands on a larger backplate for my ipod 5g? i've got a large battery and it won't fit in the original case. 

 
The best places to look are ebay and aliexpress.  Ebay is more convenient for most people, but aliexpress usually has slightly cheaper parts (but they ship from China usually.)  Most of the other ones on ebay are resellers of the aliexpress parts.
 
Nov 27, 2016 at 7:14 PM Post #8,670 of 10,664
   
The best places to look are ebay and aliexpress.  Ebay is more convenient for most people, but aliexpress usually has slightly cheaper parts (but they ship from China usually.)  Most of the other ones on ebay are resellers of the aliexpress parts.

only one i could find is https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Metal-Back-Rear-Case-Housing-Cover-Shell-for-iPod-5th-Gen-5G-Video-60GB/32766242150.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.1uZPyt&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_10000007_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_10073_10097_10100_10096_10070_10052_10050_10051_424,searchweb201603_9&btsid=bae22f5a-43d1-4636-80db-7dd945213994
 
and thats with zero reviews and from a seller with less than 50% positive feedback, and it doesnt even say its a bigger back plate. it looks bigger, but thats about all i can tell.
 

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