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eBay is the way to go! Can't get it any cheaper than that.smile.gif

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All Classics use ZIF HDDs with a PATA interface, except for the 6th generation Classic 160GB (the fat one), that one uses a CE-ATA interface.

When searching for drives on eBay etc, it's important that they're the right interface, that they require a max of 3.3v, 1.8", and 5mm in height (for the thin Classic) or 8mm in height (for the fat Classic).

 

iPod ZIF PATA hard drive cable

iPod ZIF CE-ATA hard drive cable

 

ZIF just means Zero Insertion Force, and has no further specification. So you need a hard drive cable specific for your type of iPod and a hard drive with the same interface.

post #513 of 3502
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Originally Posted by cmarti View Post

That iPod is different... It can only see one platter in two platter drives. Try it yourself, I own one just like I own a 80gb 6th generation iPod classic and two others, a 5.5th generation iPod video with 240gb drive and a 5th generation iPod video with a 160gb drive.

In that case you are probably using an incompatible drive or connector. You need an exact match: If the previous drive is CE-ATA, get a CE-ATA drive to replace it. Use the cable in the iPod or an exact replacement. Make sure the voltage requirements are within tolerance.

As DF pointed out, the stock drive in the 160gb iPod 6g is a two-platter drive. If your own iPod can't see a second platter and the drive meets all specs and the cable is stock, then the drive is faulty.
Edited by ardgedee - 11/2/12 at 4:28am
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You might be able to double your storage with the Toshiba MK2533GSG 320GB drive. I would double-check on one of the Mac or iPod hacking boards to make sure it will work -- the drive is dual ATA-8/SATA, while your original drive is ATA-3 -- but the voltage tolerance is 3.3V and the physical dimensions are identical to your current drive. Google says you can get that Toshiba in the $100-ish range, and I found one for $150 on Ebay without trying hard.
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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post


In that case you are probably using an incompatible drive or connector. You need an exact match: If the previous drive is CE-ATA, get a CE-ATA drive to replace it. Use the cable in the iPod or an exact replacement. Make sure the voltage requirements are within tolerance.
As DF pointed out, the stock drive in the 160gb iPod 6g is a two-platter drive. If your own iPod can't see a second platter and the drive meets all specs and the cable is stock, then the drive is faulty.

I used the a new one ordered from eBay and another one that I took of one of my 5th generation iPods.

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Guys ,i am looking to buy an unit of Ipod Video 5 or 5.5.Never had an Apple,but knowing i can rockbox it and in the future i will be able to change the hard drive i know this version of Ipod is like among the best for my need in just listening to music as portable device and nothing else.

My question is that i see easily the 30Gb version to sell but not so much the 80Gb one:I will be able to put a 240 HDD or 256 SSD in a 30Gb version or i must have the 80Gb in order to install those huge driver?I ask this because some say that maybe the 30Gb wont have enough ram to support 240 or 256 Gb of space.Thanks folks.

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Originally Posted by antberg View Post

My question is that i see easily the 30Gb version to sell but not so much the 80Gb one:I will be able to put a 240 HDD or 256 SSD in a 30Gb version or i must have the 80Gb in order to install those huge driver?I ask this because some say that maybe the 30Gb wont have enough ram to support 240 or 256 Gb of space.Thanks folks.

I am rocking to Black Sabbath's Born Again right now with my 5th generation iPod which I upgraded to 160gb and it works fine, I only have 286mb left of storage and no lag or nothing. Of course it is rockboxed!

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Thanks Cmarti,sorry if i did not explained myself properly,i was refer about the RAM memory.I may be wrong but somewhere that the 30 and the 80 Gb models have different RAM's (something like 32 and 64 Mb respectively),so maybe 240 Gb in the 30Gb version wont be working due to low RAM,fell free to correct me anyone if i am talking bs.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by antberg View Post

Thanks Cmarti,sorry if i did not explained myself properly,i was refer about the RAM memory.I may be wrong but somewhere that the 30 and the 80 Gb models have different RAM's (something like 32 and 64 Mb respectively),so maybe 240 Gb in the 30Gb version wont be working due to low RAM,fell free to correct me anyone if i am talking bs.wink.gif

 

^ That is what I read as well. I also read (in this thread) that 5.5 gen 30GB version can take a 120GB HDD.

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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

You might be able to double your storage with the Toshiba MK2533GSG 320GB drive. I would double-check on one of the Mac or iPod hacking boards to make sure it will work -- the drive is dual ATA-8/SATA, while your original drive is ATA-3 -- but the voltage tolerance is 3.3V and the physical dimensions are identical to your current drive. Google says you can get that Toshiba in the $100-ish range, and I found one for $150 on Ebay without trying hard.

 

^ That Toshiba MK2533GSG 320GB HDD seems to have a mSATA jack. So I guess if we connect it with a mSATA / ZIF adapter to a 5.5 gen 80GB, it is likely that it will work.

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It looks to me like the drive has dual connectors (the drive's specs clearly say it's both ATA and SATA), but yeah, I'd do legwork before committing money to the idea. See if there's been any discusson on iLounge or the MacRumors forums about it, or do what I did when I was researching SSDs: Search for drive model numbers + "iPod" in Google.
post #522 of 3502
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

 

^ That is what I read as well. I also read (in this thread) that 5.5 gen 30GB version can take a 120GB HDD.

 

Mine is 5th generation with the 32mb board and has installed the 160 GB drive and it’d recognized just fine, I haven't tried the 240 GB drive in it thought.

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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

 

^ That is what I read as well. I also read (in this thread) that 5.5 gen 30GB version can take a 120GB HDD.

Thanks for the input guys,if i remember correctly it was in this thread (which are among the best in this particular subject) that someone mentioned this possible issue.I did already read the whole thread twice but today im not exactly in the mood..hehe

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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

It looks to me like the drive has dual connectors (the drive's specs clearly say it's both ATA and SATA), but yeah, I'd do legwork before committing money to the idea. See if there's been any discusson on iLounge or the MacRumors forums about it, or do what I did when I was researching SSDs: Search for drive model numbers + "iPod" in Google.

 

I spent about 30 min to google "320GB iPod" and "MK2533GSG 320GB iPod".  Did not find an actual success or failure story. Here is some relevant discussion about it:

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=26993.0

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Originally Posted by cmarti View Post

 

Mine is 5th generation with the 32mb board and has installed the 160 GB drive and it’d recognized just fine, I haven't tried the 240 GB drive in it thought.


Can you let me know the specific 160 GB hard drive you used?

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