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post #3046 of 8689
Interesting mention of connecting the ipod video 5.5g to a Fiio E07. What cables were used and did any settings have to be changed within Rockbox? Are there bit rate limits on this setup?

I am still debating where I should upgrade the 5.5g. Rockbox on the 5.5g unit has really surprised me with its great sound. I never would have believed that Rockbox would awaken the sound on this unit compared wtih stock firmware. Now I am considering going for it; which means upgrading the battery, new display, and new memory. I am fooling with two Fiio units (E07 and X3). So far I have used the E07 with iphones and ipads but not the ipod.

Thanks.
Edited by originalsnuffy - 6/3/14 at 8:44am
post #3047 of 8689
Anyone know what the sound quality is like of the early iPods? While I was looking for old 4th Gen iPods I started looking at 2nd and 3rd Gen iPods. I think it would be cool to do the SD card swap one them and have an old retro iPad that's high capacity. Thinking 128GB. I'm not sure what DAC they have but they seem cheap enough. Then I'd like to get a 1st Gen as well. Get a nice collection going. Thoughts?

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post #3048 of 8689
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Originally Posted by DR650SE View Post

Anyone know what the sound quality is like of the early iPods? While I was looking for old 4th Gen iPods I started looking at 2nd and 3rd Gen iPods. I think it would be cool to do the SD card swap one them and have an old retro iPad that's high capacity. Thinking 128GB. I'm not sure what DAC they have but they seem cheap enough. Then I'd like to get a 1st Gen as well. Get a nice collection going. Thoughts?

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Obligatory old reference (posted before - credit to all before me):

 

http://macintoshhowto.com/ipod/which-ipod-has-the-best-audio-quality.html

 

The DACs are listed on that webpage. 

 

I like the sound of the first-gen Nano which I still have even after Apple requested it back via RMA for a battery issue.  I am listening to the iPod Video 5.5G via lineout to a FiiO E12 using Rockbox.  It sounds very good to me -- not as good as a more-moderd upsampling DAC/amp, but very good nonetheless. 

post #3049 of 8689
I've seen that. I'm thinking more along the lines of the original iPods, before Nanos. Things like the Ipod scrollwheel. I don't think I've ever seen one in person. They are from I think 2002.

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post #3050 of 8689
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

jazzman7,

I have heard that low level noise before (from quiet music recorded using iPod 5.5 gen). But most people with most kinds of earphones / music / listening volume should not hear it. As it is, as you said, very very low in level. I personally don't consider it an issue.

I read somewhere that it could be CPU noise, though I might remember it wrong. I also read that stock Apple OS spreads out the noise evenly so that you won't hear it, but Rockbox probably concentrates those noises and makes them more audible. I cannot find the original reference though.

Thanks for this, zzffnn.  It is definitely low-level noise.  I had to turn the volume up to ridiculous levels to even hear it, and then of course any normal-level file would make me deaf in short order.  It sounds like CPU noise and is driven by processor load.  I did a spectrogram to verify that it was visible (could even see it chirp a bit).  But it was at the level of the background noise and barely identifiable even there. 

post #3051 of 8689
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Originally Posted by cmarti View Post
 

The kit is indeed amazing, I am not sure what kind of battery it is but the iPods that I will use these are not units I leave in the car. For the car I have the trustworthy 240gb hard drive 5.5th gen iPod.

 

The seller stopped selling these on eBay because he was losing money, some people got the whole kit for 99 cents shipped! Let's see how it goes when I get these, I will be getting the iFlash-Sata adapter from Tarkan sometime next week so it will be fun to build a 480gb 7th gen iPod with this big battery.

 

I ordered a 2000mA battery from canamyfly2013 on ebay ($20 delivered to UK). I have a 5.5g ipod which I've fitted the 480gb crucial ssd card. The battery fits (just) but it's a very, very tight squeeze! Here's a picture [img]http://i59.tinypic.com/6r4k87.jpg[/img] Battery_bench gives me 43 hours run time! (I was getting 11 hours before).

 

Everything is working fine but I'm worried about the heat from the battery affecting the ssd card. Will this be a problem?

post #3052 of 8689
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Originally Posted by donniedarko View Post
 

 

I ordered a 2000mA battery from canamyfly2013 on ebay ($20 delivered to UK). I have a 5.5g ipod which I've fitted the 480gb crucial ssd card. The battery fits (just) but it's a very, very tight squeeze! Here's a picture [img]http://i59.tinypic.com/6r4k87.jpg[/img] Battery_bench gives me 43 hours run time! (I was getting 11 hours before).

 

Everything is working fine but I'm worried about the heat from the battery affecting the ssd card. Will this be a problem?

Interesting, I tried to close my iPod with the mSATA card and that battery but I was afraid because it was so tight that the clickwheel was being pushed forward.

 

I would be worried if I was transferring lots of files at once, don't do more than 10 gigs transfers at a time or load the card with the iPod open.

post #3053 of 8689

Teaser.
The 480GB mSATA iPod Classic 

Used a brand new iPod 7th gen Classic because the 6.5th 120GB Classic only was recognizing 127GB of the card so I went to BestBuy and bought this one :)

480GB Crucial mSATA card and 80gb iPod Video back cover and Milliamp battery. The iFlash-Sata adapter I am using is modified with a potentiometer and it's has a higher profile. (Can't share pictures of this one per Tarkan's request)

 


Edited by cmarti - 6/5/14 at 8:44pm
post #3054 of 8689
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Originally Posted by cmarti View Post

Interesting, I tried to close my iPod with the mSATA card and that battery but I was afraid because it was so tight that the clickwheel was being pushed forward.

I would be worried if I was transferring lots of files at once, don't do more than 10 gigs transfers at a time or load the card with the iPod open.

My jog wheel is fine. However there was some stress put on the lcd display which caused some damage (only slightly though). Worth bearing in mind if you plan on doing this.
post #3055 of 8689
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Originally Posted by cmarti View Post

Teaser.

The 480GB mSATA iPod Classic 



Used a brand new iPod 7th gen Classic because the 6.5th 120GB Classic only was recognizing 127GB of the card so I went to BestBuy and bought this one smily_headphones1.gif



480GB Crucial mSATA card and 80gb iPod Video back cover and Milliamp battery. The iFlash-Sata adapter I am using is modified with a potentiometer and it's has a higher profile. (Can't share pictures of this one per Tarkan's request)



 




 



Pretty awesome work there! Can't wait to see what the battery life is like on that thing!
post #3056 of 8689

Well I had a day to myself today, so I decided to get stuck in and tackle the mSata mod on the 80GB iPod Video I picked up from ebay a little while ago.

 

It's all gone well and the final result is pictured below.

 

I removed the onboard caps and re-routed the DAC output directly to the dock, fitted the iVue case, installed the 480GB Crucial mSata & adapter, restored and installed beyondwind's Rockbox with jdotfite's redux theme. Just need to load up some more music now. I also got the battery that comes with the iVue from RapidRepair. I don't know if it's considered to be any good, but I'll see how I get on with it.

 

When I saw the actual size of the components on the logic board, I had a bit of a wobble about the soldering as I'm not very skilled at it and my eyesight is not what it used to be. I bought a nice little 12W Antex iron from Maplin and that made it a lot easier. I'm so glad I did it as the output via my FiiO E18 amplifier sounds fantastic - much better than I had expected it would.

 

I just need to give massive thanks and huge respect to you guys on this forum that made it all possible. When my 160GB Classic ran out of space I thought I'd have no way of carrying all my music around on one device. To be able to do so again, with higher bitrates and at relatively low cost is just incredible. I'm going to grab a beer to celebrate - I just wish I could buy you all one too  :beerchug: 

 

 

post #3057 of 8689
That's one sleek looking rig. Looks just like mine with the clear iVue and mod. I haven't rockboxed yet. Not permanently anyway. Tried it a few times. Haven't committed to it.

Can't wait to hear your impressions about it after you've spent some time with it.

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Hi guys.  I have a 7th Gen 160Gb iPod classic, and switching over to a SSD has definitely got me interested.  I'm not sure what I need though, to convert the standard HDD to SSD, which SSD works, and how I would go about it.  Can anyone point me in a direction?  I've read through some of the thread, but I'm confused with options and versions of iPod, so I'm not sure what I'm looking at.  I don't even know if I have the thin or thick version of iPod, so any help would be appreciated.  I would purchase my SSD drive from this website http://www.memoryexpress.com

post #3059 of 8689
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Originally Posted by ZMan2k2 View Post
 

Hi guys.  I have a 7th Gen 160Gb iPod classic, and switching over to a SSD has definitely got me interested.  I'm not sure what I need though, to convert the standard HDD to SSD, which SSD works, and how I would go about it.  Can anyone point me in a direction?  I've read through some of the thread, but I'm confused with options and versions of iPod, so I'm not sure what I'm looking at.  I don't even know if I have the thin or thick version of iPod, so any help would be appreciated.  I would purchase my SSD drive from this website http://www.memoryexpress.com


Long story short, 7th gen ipods don't play well with msata ssd drives.  Best you can do is to swop out the hard drive for a newer 240 gig mechanical hard drive or a 128 gig sd card if you want to go flash but this will need an adapter.

 

Hope is on the horizon however as tarkan is looking into developing an adapter that would allow use of the msata drives in 7th gen devices.  If you want ssd you will have to get a 5th gen and mod that.

 

Hope that helps.

post #3060 of 8689
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Originally Posted by donniedarko View Post
 

 

I ordered a 2000mA battery from canamyfly2013 on ebay ($20 delivered to UK). I have a 5.5g ipod which I've fitted the 480gb crucial ssd card. The battery fits (just) but it's a very, very tight squeeze! Here's a picture [img]http://i59.tinypic.com/6r4k87.jpg[/img] Battery_bench gives me 43 hours run time! (I was getting 11 hours before).

 

Everything is working fine but I'm worried about the heat from the battery affecting the ssd card. Will this be a problem?

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