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post #2431 of 3349
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Originally Posted by dr408517 View Post

The RB 480g mSata has made possible a lossless iPod for the truly obsessed.  

You are 100% right, we are obsessed. XD

post #2432 of 3349
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Fact is, I don't want the 480g mSata for a bunch of 128.mp3 files anyway. Knowing I was able to load 44K files without a problem means that I could code my files to 320.mp3 or lossless aac. Hmm, with a 1T mSata I could just go straight to flac...

 

Beyondwind is king. The RB 480g mSata has made possible a lossless iPod for the truly obsessed.  

 

This patch from beyondwind is a big surprise as I had already written off the mSATA.

 

Although it seems the patch has resolved the heat issue, I recommend when you drop the load to the drive, do it in an air-conditioned room temperature and put the ipod on a cooled desk surface. Just be more cautious to protect the parts from heat.

 

The 480GB (or 512Gb) is the max I will go on these ipods due to ram and buffer.

post #2433 of 3349
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Originally Posted by dr408517 View Post

The RB 480g mSata has made possible a lossless iPod for the truly obsessed.  

You are 100% right, we are obsessed. XD

 

I am not obsessed with the GB's only the music. :wink_face:

 

You will never have enough storage unless you stop collecting music.

post #2434 of 3349
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I am not obsessed with the GB's only the music. :wink_face:

 

You will never have enough storage unless you stop collecting music.

I hear ya' but I am having problems listening to new recordings, the new releases are brickwalled and that turns me off. I collect new releases only if they are released to vinyl. I came to the conclusion that I can't listen to anything below a DR9 as this is where I start to hear the artifacts in the music.

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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post

This patch from beyondwind is a big surprise as I had already written off the mSATA.

Although it seems the patch has resolved the heat issue, I recommend when you drop the load to the drive, do it in an air-conditioned room temperature and put the ipod on a cooled desk surface. Just be more cautious to protect the parts from heat.

The 480GB (or 512Gb) is the max I will go on these ipods due to ram and buffer.

HA! Funny thing is I've been doing these tests on a computer in my basement, and the average temp down there has been 55d F. And yes, at one point when I was testing the 480g with iTunes, I put a fan next to the open iPod. I almost posted a picture, but then I thought "no one really needs to see this".
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I hear ya' but I am having problems listening to new recordings, the new releases are brickwalled and that turns me off. I collect new releases only if they are released to vinyl. I came to the conclusion that I can't listen to anything below a DR9 as this is where I start to hear the artifacts in the music.

 

What's DR9? So most of your rips are from vinyls?

post #2437 of 3349
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What's DR9? So most of your rips are from vinyls?

Newer albums yes, DR stands for dynamic range.

 

Here's two good read on the subject.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

 

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep11/articles/loudness.htm

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Newer albums yes, DR stands for dynamic range.

 

Here's two good read on the subject.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

 

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep11/articles/loudness.htm

 

Interesting read. Thanks for the info.

post #2439 of 3349
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Interesting read. Thanks for the info.

No problem.

 

Here's a cool tool to measure the DR on your audio files:

 

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/tt_dynamic_range_meter_by_pleasurize_music_foundation

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I tried one more load to the 256g BP4 mSata using iTunes. Reports 0-songs.  It's RB Time.:D

post #2441 of 3349
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I tried one more load to the 256g BP4 mSata using iTunes. Reports 0-songs.  It's RB Time.:D

Maybe after you install RockBox your car stereo will read the iPod as USB storage. 

post #2442 of 3349
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Maybe after you install RockBox your car stereo will read the iPod as USB storage. 

You read my mind.
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So my new obsession is playing with a DAC/Amplifier using the iphone and ipad. I have an original, unmodified 80gb Ipod Video 5.5 g that works fine that I would like to sell to pay for the new toys.

 

What price range should I expect for this unit on Ebay nowadays?  The screen looks a bit washed out to me with video playback, but otherwise all is fine.  

 

Condition is fair/good; only used in a clock radio in the bathroom.

 

Thanks for the advice.

post #2444 of 3349
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So my new obsession is playing with a DAC/Amplifier using the iphone and ipad. I have an original, unmodified 80gb Ipod Video 5.5 g that works fine that I would like to sell to pay for the new toys.

 

What price range should I expect for this unit on Ebay nowadays?  The screen looks a bit washed out to me with video playback, but otherwise all is fine.  

 

Condition is fair/good; only used in a clock radio in the bathroom.

 

Thanks for the advice.

Locally It would sell for maybe $60 or $70 (Craigslist).

 

You may get more one eBay, I normally start my auctions for $0.99 and free US continental shipping, sometimes some person in Europe pays wins for some crazy amount.

(I sold a cell for over $460 and it sells for $150 on Craigslist)

 

 

Your call.

post #2445 of 3349
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File Limits and Media Testing Update:

All tests were run with the same iTunes files coded to 128.mp3. All boards are 64k Ram with version noted (V). The objective was to evaluate the performance of the different media and determine the maximum file limit for each with stock iTunes firmware. My V6 tests were with a recovered logic board from a thin 80g iPod. My car testing is with a stock 2013 Toyota USB Apple Ipod interface.

 

- 240g Toshiba HD V7, V5 and V5.5 (formats to 120g in V6): More than 57K songs could be loaded before iPod was completely full. iTunesdb exceeded 80,000kb on iPod. Performance is consistent and reliable. iPod will not, however, play properly on the car interface, and there are many gaps in play. Database struggles to update, and sometimes cycles indefinitely.

 

-128g Transend and 256g Lexar SD+Tarkan V7 and V5.5: 128g SD loads smoothly and without hiccups in V5.5, V6 and V7. Plays in car with occasional gaps. V7 performs better than V5.5. 256g SD fails frequently during song load, whether via iTunes (error -69) or via Disk mode copy and regardless of iPod version. Failures occur randomly, and are not associated with specific song files. Replacement with new drive cable(s) or new logic board does not improve performance. 256g card passes all performance tests and has no bad sectors. Connected to car, iPod searching is responsive, but there are many play-gaps. Similar issues observed by others on this forum, therefore 256g Lexar 600x is not a reliable SD media for iPod.

 

-256g SuperTalent ZT2 SSD V5.5 (does not work in V6 or V7). Testing still underway. 24K songs have been loaded without issue. Unacceptable performance with car interface.

 

-256g BP4, Crucial and 480g Crucial mSata V5.5 (does not work in V7): Heat issues are significant for Crucial mSatas using iTunes firmware and software; songs must be loaded in chunks of less than 5000 at a time. If permitted to get too hot, these chips will burn up the adapter, the logic board, the chip and battery, not necessarily in that order. BP chips run considerably cooler. At about 35K songs, the iPod will report 0-songs in the library on removal from the USB. A reboot restores the songs, but not the artwork. I have successfully loaded about 47K songs onto the BP4 mSata with 33g free space remaining.  This ipod works in the car, but the battery drains completely unless the ipod is disconnected, and the search function is not reliable. Oddly, album artwork shows up for some songs.  480g Crucial mSata has same 0-song reporting error above 35k songs, but unlike the BP4, it will not restore the songs after a reboot.  In fact, a reboot after loading 44k songs resulted in a continuous Apple logo and an overheating issue for iPod, with subsequent destruction of the battery. Same iPod was tested with 240g Toshiba HD and 39K songs were successfully loaded without issue.  

 

Note: beyondwind's firmware update for mSata was tested on the 480g Crucial V5.5 and found to result in significantly less heating issues. A successful load of 38K, and 44K songs was tested and no issues were indentified.  A load of >100K songs were tested and found to overwhelm the buffer, crash the iPod and initiate an overheating cycle that destroyed the battery (however, board is currently not responsive and will require testing). 

 

-128g KingSpec SSD V6 and V7 (does not work in V5 or V5.5): This SSD is by far the most reliable SSD upgrade for use in the car. I have tested many; all fully loaded. There are occasional issues that result in the iPod shutting down unexpectedly and there are occasional continuous play-gaps. However, these events are relatively rate, and having exposed these iPods to both summer heat and winter cold - and because no other iPod will perform as well, I have built 4 which I rotate for use in the car.

 

Lastly, I have tested the 64g SanDisk regular and microSDXC cards in V5.5 and V7 ipods and in an iPod mini V2 using the Tarkan adapters. All work marvelously as iPods. The V5.5 and 7 are great in the car, but the mini V2 is not always recognized as an ipod - so the songs show up with Apple's 4-letter code instead of artist and track, etc.


Nice testing there.  Wonder if I could ask if you could test the lexar 256 and tarkan under Rockbox on one of the 5th gen ipods please?  I'm assuming it would fair better with the new build that's out.  I also wonder if the build would make a difference with the v2 mini and lexar 256 behaviour.

 

Thanks

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