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post #1471 of 2748
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post

 

 

Well it's my understanding majority of the CF's in the market are made in China. So I wouldn't worry about the it too much, plus they offer 3 yrs warranty.

 

 

Even if the 1 TB fits, then you have no space left for the magic caps.

 Very true, funny that you can build a great iMod with an Hitachi 240 Gb drive assuming you can get caps that are so small, the drive does not become an issue anymore, but again there is something so magical of having a flash base drive, it all of a sudden becomes competitive with the new iPods alike. What I do find amazing still to this day; I bring my iMod to the Apple store and still think when is Apple going to release an iPod sounding as good as mine? :D

post #1472 of 2748

Hello, everyone.

I'm a newbie, and I do hate bumping older topics, but I need some questions answered regarding this specific kind of mod for my situation:

I have A1238 120 GB iPod (7th generation?), and I was wondering if it's possible to do the SDXC -> CF -> HDD mod on this specific model.

Secondly, should such a mod be made, which SDXC card has been the most functional in this mod?

Does it significantly change anything regarding the devices weight or battery efficiency?

Where can I find specific instructions for installing an iFlash mod without turning to a professional and forking up cash I don't have?

post #1473 of 2748
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Originally Posted by AceFaith View Post

Hello, everyone.

I'm a newbie, and I do hate bumping older topics, but I need some questions answered regarding this specific kind of mod for my situation:

I have A1238 120 GB iPod (7th generation?), and I was wondering if it's possible to do the SDXC -> CF -> HDD mod on this specific model.

Secondly, should such a mod be made, which SDXC card has been the most functional in this mod?

Does it significantly change anything regarding the devices weight or battery efficiency?

Where can I find specific instructions for installing an iFlash mod without turning to a professional and forking up cash I don't have?

 

Welcome Ace-Faith to Head-Fi.


Actually the 7th gen mod is a very common one and yes it is possible, countless people have done it before.

 

You can do a few ways but some are more expensive than others and some solutions work best with different iPod generations.

The 7th gen can definitively be done with SDXC->CF->Zif (Zif is the hdd interface).

 

The best site to see how it's done is Tarkan Akdam's site, here is the link for instructions using his well designed iFlash adaptor:

http://www.tarkan.info/20080115/tutorials/iflash-ipod-compact-flash-mk2

 

Here is another link showing the compatibility list of sdxc cards versus the different iPod generations:

http://www.tarkan.info/20121226/tutorials/ipod-and-sdhc-sdxc-cards

 

He provides everything from the instructions to the components needed to make it work (very competitive pricing by the way and Tarkan's quality for his iFlash is definitively there). Remember that for the 7th gen iPod, opening the case is a real challenge. You will most likely damage your back plate not to mention your front panel. So if you still want to do it, I'd suggest you buy both of those and then move the iPod switch and battery from your current one to the new back plate. You can get brand new front plates and refurbished back plate that just looks fabulous from eBay.

 

Modding the iPod does a few things to it:

Makes it lighter because cf + adaptor is lighter

Makes it shock proof to a certain extent as there is no moving parts (the screen is still "crackable" so be careful there.

It uses less battery power than the hdd, that is true when the hdd is seeking, other than that the Ipod has a fetch buffer that allows the hdd to be used less. If you change tunes a lot, that is when it is more savvy.

 

As far as cash, it becomes impossible to do unless you have money, there is a strict minimum you need to spend to upgrade the iPod to cf, sorry you can't win them all.

 

Have a blast modding your iPod!


Edited by musicheaven - 8/5/13 at 4:02pm
post #1474 of 2748

Wow, thanks for the quick response! I may go about doing this mod, since I'm looking to quash several flies at once with my stubbornly (still) alive iPod (despite hard drive failures on several files, chipped screen, damaged headphone jack, dodgy hold switch, etc) with some mods as opposed to replacements. I'm doing this since my local iPod repair shop is phasing out their services, leaving me to solve most of this by myself.

If I'm making a shopping list for this, I'm probably looking to buy the SD-CF bundle and opening kit (including the stuff to fix the stuff listed above, SDXC, headphone jack, etc.). Should I go for getting the HDD ribbon cables as well, in case I fumble up the installation?

EDIT: I forgot to ask this, but how is Rockbox support with CF/SDXC iMod solutions?


Edited by AceFaith - 8/5/13 at 4:50pm
post #1475 of 2748
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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post

 Very true, funny that you can build a great iMod with an Hitachi 240 Gb drive assuming you can get caps that are so small, the drive does not become an issue anymore, but again there is something so magical of having a flash base drive, it all of a sudden becomes competitive with the new iPods alike. What I do find amazing still to this day; I bring my iMod to the Apple store and still think when is Apple going to release an iPod sounding as good as mine? :D


Apple could just put in the best wolfson chip in the 7g classic with the direct out mod done at the factory, then I need to find another hobby. wink_face.gif

post #1476 of 2748
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post


Apple could just put in the best wolfson chip in the 7g classic with the direct out mod done at the factory, then I need to find another hobby. wink_face.gif

 

Believe me there is always something to do in the world of mods, it is just that they can never put all the features one would want. :)

post #1477 of 2748
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Originally Posted by AceFaith View Post

Wow, thanks for the quick response! I may go about doing this mod, since I'm looking to quash several flies at once with my stubbornly (still) alive iPod (despite hard drive failures on several files, chipped screen, damaged headphone jack, dodgy hold switch, etc) with some mods as opposed to replacements. I'm doing this since my local iPod repair shop is phasing out their services, leaving me to solve most of this by myself.

If I'm making a shopping list for this, I'm probably looking to buy the SD-CF bundle and opening kit (including the stuff to fix the stuff listed above, SDXC, headphone jack, etc.). Should I go for getting the HDD ribbon cables as well, in case I fumble up the installation?

EDIT: I forgot to ask this, but how is Rockbox support with CF/SDXC iMod solutions?

 

Have fun making your list!

 

>>> I forgot to ask this, but how is Rockbox support with CF/SDXC iMod solutions?

 

I believe there is not a direct support for RockBox, but I heard that there is another method using some third party component to be added to the RockBox installation. To be honest, it is not worth the trouble. I tried and got into problems and I had the original drive in it. So do it at your own risk.

post #1478 of 2748
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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post

 

Believe me there is always something to do in the world of mods, it is just that they can never put all the features one would want. :)


I heard RWA modding the AK-120's by replacing the wolfsons. Can we replace the 5g's wolfson with a better one? :) Not that I complain about the 5g's wolfson, but that would add more fun to the mod.

post #1479 of 2748
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post


I heard RWA modding the AK-120's by replacing the wolfsons. Can we replace the 5g's wolfson with a better one? smily_headphones1.gif Not that I complain about the 5g's wolfson, but that would add more fun to the mod.

I have been thinking about that but there are a few show stoppers:
1 - The Wolfson in the 5 g is an old design and uses the 32-pin surface mount design, difficult chip to work with having narrow spacing between pins, requiring precise soldering\desoldering technique. A little shaking and the two adjacent pins are soldered wink.gif

2- The best Wolfson dacs are the 8740/8741 and are not pin compatible (28 pin configuration) with the above codec unit. They too are hard to solder/desolder.

You have to leave the handling of those chips to the steady hands smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by musicheaven - 8/5/13 at 6:24pm
post #1480 of 2748
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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post


I have been thinking about that but there are a few show stoppers:
1 - The Wolfson in the 5 g is an old design and uses the 32-pin surface mount design, difficult chip to work with having narrow spacing between pins, requiring precise soldering\desoldering technique. A little shaking and the two adjacent pins are soldered wink.gif

2- The best Wolfson dacs are the 8740/8741 and are not pin compatible (28 pin configuration) with the above codec unit. They too are hard to solder/desolder.

You have to leave the handling of those chips to the steady hands smily_headphones1.gif

 

We need to talk to Apple and outsource the mod for that part. wink_face.gif   

post #1481 of 2748

OK folks, how about this:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Slot-TF-microSD-micro-SD-type-Compact-Flash-Card-CF-Reader-Adapter-/251309005272#vi-content

 

Would this work in a Tarkan-modded iPod?  I realize that because it is micro-SD, we're still limited to 128GB currently (2 x 64GB), but micro SD is most likely to migrate to higher capacities.

post #1482 of 2748
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post

OK folks, how about this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Slot-TF-microSD-micro-SD-type-Compact-Flash-Card-CF-Reader-Adapter-/251309005272#vi-content

Would this work in a Tarkan-modded iPod?  I realize that because it is micro-SD, we're still limited to 128GB currently (2 x 64GB), but micro SD is most likely to migrate to higher capacities.

It does look like it could work, although one would want to stay with class 10 cards. I think that the combo cf to micro sdhc adaptor and the two micro sdhc 64 gb cards will cost you as much as a 128 gb sdxc card and it's adaptor. I would rather wanna stick with one card but once the 128 gb micro sdhc card becomes more economical then we'd be talking about a different situation.

Are you planning to give it a try?
post #1483 of 2748

Actually, probably not because, as you say, there's no real benefit right now.

 

But there's another option which is really what I want:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007WYYSS2

 

Use this to extend the SD slot to the edge of the case.  Then, with SD ribbon cable -> SD-CF adapter -> Tarkan adapter, one should have an iPod with user-replaceable memory.

 

I might give this a go.
 

post #1484 of 2748
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post

OK folks, how about this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Slot-TF-microSD-micro-SD-type-Compact-Flash-Card-CF-Reader-Adapter-/251309005272#vi-content

Would this work in a Tarkan-modded iPod?  I realize that because it is micro-SD, we're still limited to 128GB currently (2 x 64GB), but micro SD is most likely to migrate to higher capacities.

With yet another adapter, you can use full-sized SDXC cards in microSDXC slots:
For details and working photos please see post 8204 on page 547 of this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/592076/ibasso-dx100-24-bit-for-bit-pg-1-reviews-impressions-downloads-video-new-firmware-1-4-2/8190
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html

Not sure everything will fit inside an iPod though. And there would be 3 adapters, probably too much of a gamble. If anyone wants to try that approach though, I am willing to loan him/her my APA-TFC1m SD->microSD adapter.
post #1485 of 2748
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post

Actually, probably not because, as you say, there's no real benefit right now.

But there's another option which is really what I want:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007WYYSS2

Use this to extend the SD slot to the edge of the case.  Then, with SD ribbon cable -> SD-CF adapter -> Tarkan adapter, one should have an iPod with user-replaceable memory.

I might give this a go.

 

Interesting you bring that up I was thinking would it be nice if we could switch the sdxc card with the cf to sdxc adaptor. As long as one would have a slot available in the case.

The only problem would be to drill a slot in the case, you can't do it on the side without compromising the frame and how the iPod closes. The bottom back plate seems to be the only location. It seems to me that it would be very hard if not impossible to implement, although interesting would become a Frankenstein Imod or a FrankenImod biggrin.gif

I think I would stick to the enclosed version wink.gif
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