Westone 4 an Upgrade from Turbine Coppers? - Page 2

I dont disagree about the seal thing, but frankly its annoying to go thru 30-40 buds trying to get a seal.  I am custom fit only from here on out.  I would love to try the coppers with a custom tip on them.   (the hole is to big to smush the um56 on it)

 

I highly highly highly recommend not screwing with universal buds anymore and get a pair of custom tips made or just going with customs.

I had the same problem with tips/seal on my coppers.  Out of desperation I got 1964 Ears custom tips for them and couldn't possibly be more happy.  I highly recommend them.  I hope to do a proper write up about them soon...

Totally agree.
 

 

 

I agree with my buddy Kunlun , with the right seal the coppers are a well balanced earphone with plenty of midrange and treble presence and detail however they do sound somewhat artificial in the midrange .

I agree with you @twylight however that the coppers are not in the same league as the w4 which is technically superior in almost every way and much more realistic and natural sounding.
 

 

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What are the advantages of using the 1964 Custom Tips over Monster's foam and gel filled Super-Tips? I can only get two tips to work for me and they work great but if Custom tips work that much better I might give them a try in the future. I'd really love to hear your impressions. 

 

I'll do a proper write up with pics soon, but the quick story is this...

I've been using Etymotic foam tips and Shure olives on my ER4 for ears. I love the deep insertion and all the sonic and comfort benefits that come with that setup.

I was shocked when I the coppers how I couldn't find a tip I was happy with....I even tried comply tips. I hated the more shallow insertion and how **** finicky the seal would be. I just wanted to go back to my Er4.

For me the custom tips provided a perfect fit and seal while being ultra comfortable. The highs are lessened a tiny bit with them (not as much as comply foam tips). But, I added a tiny bit of eq to negate that.

I love them so much I got custom tips for my Er4 then proceeded to order a pair of 1964-quads.

I have a set of complys and sony tips.  They all suck.  Custom tips or customs.

 

They all suck horribly actually.  I am having flash backs of my first shure and westone universals and the BAGS of tips I messed around with before getting um56.