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post #121 of 265
I've noticed those people mtself, there's no accounting for taste. I do wish the UI was more friendly on Neutron though, a shame really. I'm intending to pair this phone with an amp if I can find something b extra and reasonably priced. I feel the mid are still a tad recessed for my liking.
post #122 of 265
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I've noticed those people mtself, there's no accounting for taste. I do wish the UI was more friendly on Neutron though, a shame really. I'm intending to pair this phone with an amp if I can find something b extra and reasonably priced. I feel the mid are still a tad recessed for my liking.

 

I use it with TF10's (V shaped frequency response) and so often use the EQ to boost the mids.

 

If you aren't adverse to using Neutrons EQ try increasing the equalisers mid1 and mid2 octave bandwidths to near max in the Neutron 'settings' section then just increase both mid sliders (or lower both the treble and bass sliders) on the main EQ screen to suit. I get much better, more pleasing results from the EQ when set up like that.

post #123 of 265
I'll give that a bash tonight when I get home from work. To be honest I've only tested Neutron with my Sennheiser PX100II's thus far. Once I get the sound balanced on those ill work on my Shures SRH840'S.
post #124 of 265
Why is it that whenever I move one of the EQ sliders the volume reduces?

Ari, I tried your suggestion above but it sounds awful to be honest. It seems incredibly easy to end up with a distorted mess when using the EQ.
Edited by Zorrofox - 1/8/14 at 12:07pm
post #125 of 265
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Why is it that whenever I move one of the EQ sliders the volume reduces?

Ari, I tried your suggestion above but it sounds awful to be honest. It seems incredibly easy to end up with a distorted mess when using the EQ.

 

If you move the sliders up, the amp will start to clip, neutrons clip detection will then reduce the pre amp level down to stop it damaging your amp section. Instead of moving the middle sliders up you are just as well moving the end sliders down to avoid Clip detection having to kick in.

 

Yes EQ can really make things a lot worse than better in some situations, I use it mainly on some acoustic tracks where it seems to work quite well... other busier tracks it ruins..

post #126 of 265
I was messing around with Neutron last night and getting so frustrated. On tracks I know very well the difference between Neutron and Poweramp was night and day. So much so I'm not sure which is the more accurate. This weekend I should be able to relax a bit more and properly listen to the music. One thing, is there a way to automatically reset the EQ back to it's starting point or does that have to be done manually.

Apologies for all the questions. To be honest this is the first time in a long time a piece of software has confused me to this extent.

Many thanks for the help.
post #127 of 265

Yes, just switch off the EQ.. (EQ button) and return the pre-amp gain slider (if switched on) back to its original halfway position if clip detection has pushed it down

You can also just press the reset button in the EQ settings page if you want to revert the mids octave width to factory settings.

 

Whether Poweramp or Neutron sounds most accurate probably depends mainly on your headphones and kit.Neutron now has a much better UI than before but it's still not the most intuitive and does take a bit of getting used to... but if you bear with it for a week or two it definately soon becomes second nature.

post #128 of 265
Hi again.

I just wanted to post an update now that I've had more time to assess Neutron. I'll cut to the chase right away - this is the best sound I've ever heard using a portable device! I know my headphones aren't the best but I'm very familiar with their signature using many playback devices so my opinion is valid as far as it goes.

I haven't bothered with Poweramp since thursday, it simply doesn't come close to the sound of Neutron. I really am hearing things I've never heard before. When I've previously read people referring to "timing" I must confess to not really understanding what they meant. I do now. And it's very obviously better, not subtle at all. I'm listening to Baby by Yello right now and I've never heard it sound so good. Percussion in particular is punchy, dynamic and just so right. I'm amazed it can be so good. Vocals breathe much better than I've heard using either the stock app or Poweramp and everything seems to be in its own space but without losing cohesion.

It's perhaps worth pointing out that my previous portable reference was a Rockboxed Cowon D2 which, although some said was coloured, I thought was superb. I was wrong. I have superb in my hand right now. I've ended up with the EQ flat, crossfeed on and dither enabled. If it ain't broke and all that.

Now for a negative - I'm wondering just how good this sound can get. I intend buying a Fiio E18 and I think I'll upgrade the cans too. One step at a time of course. I was looking at the Sennheiser Momentum on-ear but it only ships with an iThing remote and I refuse to pay for something I won't use so enter V-Moda, but which model to choose.

Anyway, major Kudos to the developer of this app and the very same to Ari33 who has helped me so much.

Oh, one more thing. Although I own both the Sennheiser PX100II's and the Shures SRH840'S I'm much happier with the Sennheiser. I'm pretty sure this is more down to the Senn's being so much easier to drive rather than being anything to do with the software.

Anyway, again, many thanks.
Edited by Zorrofox - 1/11/14 at 3:08pm
post #129 of 265
I find myself using neutron for my headphone listening sessions at home, poweramp for my car still because of the far superior UI and neutron doesnt shine as much over poweramp wirelessly and either or when I'm headphoning it up away from home.

Sent from my SM-N9005
post #130 of 265
The neutron ui got really beautiful imo. Everything is build quite logically and smooth. Tracks and albums always im the perfect order. Cant be happier with this app
post #131 of 265
I'm torn between Neutron & Poweramp if I'm honest. Sometimes I hear the difference and sometimes not.
post #132 of 265

I've been a Poweramp user on my android, but it's the first time i know about Neutron. It is considered an upgrade over Poweramp, or just a different player? 

post #133 of 265

The trick with Neutron is to understand how a parametric EQ works and then wrestle with the lousy UI for the EQ. It is very hard to tune out a resonant peak in lousy IEMs like the Klipsch S4 that can make silabance a painful experience. You can do some fantastic sub bass and mid bass EQ with it. It works really good if you have an external DAC that works with your phone/tablet. I use the FiiO E18 with my Galaxy S3. Not many phones can use an external DAC without a specialty app, or at all.

post #134 of 265
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The trick with Neutron is to understand how a parametric EQ works and then wrestle with the lousy UI for the EQ. It is very hard to tune out a resonant peak in lousy IEMs like the Klipsch S4 that can make silabance a painful experience. You can do some fantastic sub bass and mid bass EQ with it. It works really good if you have an external DAC that works with your phone/tablet. I use the FiiO E18 with my Galaxy S3. Not many phones can use an external DAC without a specialty app, or at all.

 

Thanks for this quick explanation. 

 

From what i understand...neutron it's more hardware dependant if you want to achieve optimum performance? 

post #135 of 265
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Thanks for this quick explanation. 

 

From what i understand...neutron it's more hardware dependant if you want to achieve optimum performance? 

It's definitely more demanding of CPU and having an Android with lots of RAM is a big plus. My Galaxy S3 has a dual core CPU and 2 GB of RAM. Some of the newer phones have quad core CPUs and up to 3 GB of RAM. A 1 Ghz single core CPU with 512 MB of RAM ain't cutt'in it.

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