There's also a volume cap on many DAPs (Sonys, iPods, etc) sold within the European Union.
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That is true... However, the limitation is done through software and not hardware. If you really wanted to, you can find a way in to change that :p It can already be done on iPods and iPhones that are jailbroken. For all others, get a nice hacker to break into the software and change the values :) It's all legal, you have a right to your hardware.
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A bit off-topic but I was wondering if anyone knows the best way to judge how loud you're listening to music? I use HD25s along with my phone, and usually its around 8~12 bars out of 16, but I have no idea how loud it is exactly. My phone's an EnV Touch though, if anyone has experience with those. With my E11, I usually leave it at 11 bars on my phone and at 3~4 on my E11.

A bit off-topic but I was wondering if anyone knows the best way to judge how loud you're listening to music? I use HD25s along with my phone, and usually its around 8~12 bars out of 16, but I have no idea how loud it is exactly. My phone's an EnV Touch though, if anyone has experience with those. With my E11, I usually leave it at 11 bars on my phone and at 3~4 on my E11.
This is for rough estimates:
0 dB is no sound :p since the human ear can sense it, otherwise it would be 1/64 the loudness of a normal conversation
10 dB is 1/32 the loudness of a normal conversation.
20 dB is 1/16 the loudness of a normal conversation
30 dB is 1/8 the loudness of a normal conversation
40 dB is 1/4 the loudness of a normal conversation
50 dB is half the loudness of a normal conversation
60 dB is for normal conversation levels using your inside voice :p
70 dB is twice that
80 dB is four times that
90 dB is 8 times that - Where damage begins
100 dB is 16 times that
110 dB is 32 times that - clubs and concerts are at this level.
120 dB is 64 times that and where pain begins.
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Source: http://trace.wisc.edu/docs/2004-About-dB/ -- I hope the University of Wisconsin has credible data :p
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This is for rough estimates:
0 dB is no sound :p since the human ear can sense it, otherwise it would be 1/64 the loudness of a normal conversation
10 dB is 1/32 the loudness of a normal conversation.
20 dB is 1/16 the loudness of a normal conversation
30 dB is 1/8 the loudness of a normal conversation
40 dB is 1/4 the loudness of a normal conversation
50 dB is half the loudness of a normal conversation
60 dB is for normal conversation levels using your inside voice :p
70 dB is twice that
80 dB is four times that
90 dB is 8 times that - Where damage begins
100 dB is 16 times that
110 dB is 32 times that - clubs and concerts are at this level.
120 dB is 64 times that and where pain begins.
... Continues :p
Source: http://trace.wisc.edu/docs/2004-About-dB/ -- I hope the University of Wisconsin has credible data :p
The only thing is.. I don't know how to translate that to hearing music right in your head. But thanks for the info :). Will try to figure it out if no one posts any time soon.
Do you know how loud a normal conversation with your friends is? If you don't, go talk to a friend (physically) and see how loud that is. Then make rough estimates on how many times louder the noise is on your headphones (1x = same level; 2x = double; etc). This will translate into an approximation of dB. Again, these are rough estimates. It takes a little getting used to, but you can get the hang of it...
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I work in a very noisy minning project, pumps, air compressors, huge trucks, big drilling machines... you name it. and I am always using those generic foam plugs, last month I ordered this etymonic plugs. they are OK and isolated a great deal more than the disposable foamies but the foams are more comfortable. also, sometimes i have to take them off with my hands dirty, and cant trow them away liek said foamies. so i am still looking for a better one.
if dirty hands and comfort werent an issue, the etys would be superb.
excuse me I just have to ask, how did they let you register with that name? is ofensive 
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^Haha, what? It's not necessarily a derog term. What about a chink as defined as a narrow opening? Like, "a chink in his armour".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chink
I dont think a weak point in an armor could be "psycho" lol.
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-shrug- It's a forum nick. Logic doesn't really need to apply, no?
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Sensaphonics has a device that allows accurate measurement of level, in dBA, in realtime, with IEMs inserted.
It's called the dB Check in-ear sound level analyzer.
http://www.sensaphonics.com/?p=351
Just one catch: It's only programmed for Sensaphonics earphones, and for Shure's current SE line.
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