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post #16 of 27
1/21/04 at 4:16pm
I don't think it makes a difference if you're in a new building as there are plenty of things around the house that dump noise into the lines. e.g. refrigerator, light bulbs, etc. You may not have it as bad as those with lights flickering though.
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post #17 of 27
1/21/04 at 11:06pm
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Originally posted by Kuma
Surge protectors are really evil
Please explain!

I have read - don't remember where - that power conditioners/surge protectors for computers, etc., do not work well for audio equipment. I know some people despise Monster cables, but I have read good things about the Monster power centers made for home theater setups.

I personally would not run a computer without a UPS and surge protectors for all attached equipment, including the headphone amp I use with my computer. I've spent too much money and a lot of time and care in building my computer system to want to fry it because of a power surge.

I also use a Monster power center for my home audio/home theatre system. I don't have enough experience and or a good enough "ear" to say if this degrades the sound, but again, I can't afford to buy new equipment if my system gets damaged because of a power problem. Although my perspective may be skewed, I guess this was a no-brainer for me, coming from computer-geekdom to the world of audio.
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post #18 of 27
1/22/04 at 12:03am
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Originally posted by OakIris
Please explain!
I don't have enough experience and or a good enough "ear" to say if this degrades the sound, but again, I can't afford to buy new equipment if my system gets damaged because of a power problem. Although my perspective may be skewed, I guess this was a no-brainer for me, coming from computer-geekdom to the world of audio.
Oaklris,

Convention and common sense dictate that you should run a surge protection on all audio gear. Like I said in my earlier post, it is a nessesity for some.

I would not run computer without a surge protection. That's different from audio application as far as fidelity is concerned.

I've treid Monster Power Center thing once. If I remember this was a voltage regulator of some sort and it was good exceept that its self-generating internal clicking noise was too loud to be used in audio application.

I guess you can say I have been lucky since all my equipments, for most part, are plugged directly into the outlets nothing ever happened to them.
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post #19 of 27
1/22/04 at 2:15am
since no one dares mention this, I will be the first to get stoned...

Go try Monster Power! Good stuff!
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post #20 of 27
1/22/04 at 4:45am
[Throwing the first stone]

Monsterously overpriced.

The only really decent one they have is the AV2000. It is marked up quite a bit from it's true <$900 dealer cost.

-Ed
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post #21 of 27
1/22/04 at 10:54am
Some of us enjoy using the HTS-1000/2000 and PowerBar 1100/2100 series of MonsterPower products. You can get PB1100 from local electronics store. Just check to see if they have good return policy
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post #22 of 27
1/22/04 at 10:58am
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Originally posted by Edwood
Monsterously overpriced.
any suggestions on more cost effective solutions? my budget is rather low, as I'm already feeling the effect this hobby is having on my wallet
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post #23 of 27
1/22/04 at 3:03pm
The Jon Risch recipe surge protector/filter is available for your construction at diycable.com it's $125USD.

Well I wouldn't go cheap on this. You might as well just save more $.
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post #24 of 27
1/23/04 at 2:45am
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Originally posted by lan
Some of us enjoy using the HTS-1000/2000 and PowerBar 1100/2100 series of MonsterPower products. You can get PB1100 from local electronics store. Just check to see if they have good return policy
I just ordered an HTS 2000 MKII.

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The Jon Risch recipe surge protector/filter is available for your construction at diycable.com it's $125USD
My Monster HTS2000MKII cost about $140 with shipping.
Amazon marketplace. The 1000 was cheaper, but I wanted the extra outlets. The non MKII version was even less.
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post #25 of 27
1/23/04 at 8:42am
Jazz1: Checked the brochure of your Line-R - from the featureset it corresponds with what good line-interactive ups' for computers can do, just without the battery backup part. Under normal conditions, this device should have the positive effects of surge protection and filtering on your headamp, whereas it probably won't deliver an ideal sine-shaped output as soon as the line regulation is needed - then it will most probably induce quite a bit of distortion. Conclusion is that this thing is unneccessary overkill for connecting most audio devices, because what it can do more than a simpler passive surge/spike protector & filter will not help that much. So I'd recommend either the passive protector & filter or going for the next step up - which would be a real power conditioner (or a good online usv for computing purposes with properly sine shaped output; if you can find a low thd spec in the data sheet, it should do reasonably well...).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
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post #26 of 27
1/23/04 at 9:41am
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Originally posted by lini
Jazz1: Checked the brochure of your Line-R - from the featureset it corresponds with what good line-interactive ups' for computers can do, just without the battery backup part. Under normal conditions, this device should have the positive effects of surge protection and filtering on your headamp, whereas it probably won't deliver an ideal sine-shaped output as soon as the line regulation is needed - then it will most probably induce quite a bit of distortion. Conclusion is that this thing is unneccessary overkill for connecting most audio devices, because what it can do more than a simpler passive surge/spike protector & filter will not help that much. So I'd recommend either the passive protector & filter or going for the next step up - which would be a real power conditioner (or a good online usv for computing purposes with properly sine shaped output; if you can find a low thd spec in the data sheet, it should do reasonably well...).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
Thanks for the good advice. I would be a crime to do all this tweaking and end up with poorer sound.
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post #27 of 27
1/23/04 at 10:52am
Here are a few informative links on this subject:

http://www.positive-feedback.com/amb.../brickwall.htm

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...&threadid=8570

Enjoy the reads!
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