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post #271 of 372

Hi Musicman59,

 

Many thanks for your helpful comments re. EF6+DS (I have BUDA also but not so hot on it, though usefully compact for travel and balanced). You did cross my thoughts re. DS power and effects on low imp phones... I am looking for the best closed for jazz/classical ie Fostex TH900 or Beyer T1 (not too keen on latest closed LCD in general)... with DS, as my wife can't sleep, a common side effect! Good to see a pic of your gear... Have you tried LCD3 on DS and if so is that better?

 

Best, N. 

post #272 of 372

Yes, I have tried the LCD-3 with the DS and sounded really good. They really benefit from the extra power. I have been thinking in buying the LCD-3 but all the comments here (even lately) of driver issues really puts a break on me.

Regarding the TH900 or the T1 with the DS IMO the T1 is a better match due to its higher impedance but the T1 are not fully closed like the TH900 but the sound leak is not as bad as the fully open design. The cup of the T1 is like a very tight woven mesh and then inside they have a black rubber circle also blocking the sound.

In this picture you can see what I am talking about:

I personally was not 100% happy with the T1 stock. I thought the sound was a little bright but with a good OCC Copper cable I really like them.

For Jazz/Classical and the DS I personally would go with the T1.

post #273 of 372

Thanks alot for your reply Musicman59, and the helpful photo! I will take a closer look and maybe try hear the T1 in Austria (if I can locate it) where I will be (it has been on my 'radar' not least because I have the excellent DT 1350 portable as my No 1 headphone for long international flights for the last 2 years; like the sound with my HM901/801). I was veering to TH900 but your observation is interesting.

 

Re LCD3, am waiting to see it on my DS by end of the month, after your comments. I was a bit hesitant on my LCD3 too after all this veiled talk but Audeze assured me personally mine (2013 Spring) were not suspect but nonetheless the issue was a tad worrisome at that price.

 

Best, N.

post #274 of 372
What was the wait time for DS once you order ?
post #275 of 372

Mine was one of the first 5 produced so I don't know but based on a comment from Ray during RMAF that it takes him 3 weeks for a A-10 Thunderbolt my guess is that or a little less.

post #276 of 372
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Mine was one of the first 5 produced so I don't know but based on a comment from Ray during RMAF that it takes him 3 weeks for a A-10 Thunderbolt my guess is that or a little less.


 



Great ! thanks ! I might order this one instead of GSXMK2.
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Mine was one of the first 5 produced so I don't know but based on a comment from Ray during RMAF that it takes him 3 weeks for a A-10 Thunderbolt my guess is that or a little less.

 



Great ! thanks ! I might order this one instead of GSXMK2.

 

 

Umm how would the DS work with your IEMs, Denons, ATHs, and Grados?

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What was the wait time for DS once you order ?
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What was the wait time for DS once you order ?

Mine is about 2-3 weeks said Ray.

N.
post #280 of 372
I've been using my dark star with the lcd3 for a few weeks and am very much enjoying it.
I've had a hard time finding headphones I liked: I have bought and sold the he500, he6 and the T1.
Finally enjoying the lcd3 and the dark star.
It eats up power, even on the high gain setting.
I tend to listen on the loud side of things I suppose.
The other amp I've really enjoyed but don't own is the liquid glass.
On the economical end of things, my raptor stills sounds amazing with almost any headphone I try but it pairs amazingly well with my rs1.
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Umm how would the DS work with your IEMs, Denons, ATHs, and Grados?


Me ? I had HE6 and T1 sold it, I will buy back HE6 once I get the DS.

I don't think I will use DS for IEMs or all other low imp headphones :)

 

I have LCD2.1 and feel like underpowered by Burson, my HD800 is ok with Burson tho.

post #282 of 372
On your notes re. Underpowered and DS..., just wanted to add for someone's benefit that in my purchases for amps for HE6, two amps cater to it: RS SR71b, my first portable, and the BUDA from HeadRoom, a more powerful one and balanced though the former also is supposed to be. Both amps IMO run HE6 well enough (talking sub EF6 sound here) but both are underpowered. SR71b of course packs a punch in its great tiny form; the BUDA is a more solid sound and a decent handluggageable amp if you want a good lighter one as I also do (price handily dropped some 30pc a year back). But both you have to turn Volume full up for HE6 unlike EF6 (my sources are HM 801/901). As between BUDA and EF6 though latter is unbalanced as I understand it, I much prefer EF6 but all your comments point north to DS+HE6. Hopefully the buck stops there!
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On your notes re. Underpowered and DS..., just wanted to add for someone's benefit that in my purchases for amps for HE6, two amps cater to it: RS SR71b, my first portable, and the BUDA from HeadRoom, a more powerful one and balanced though the former also is supposed to be. Both amps IMO run HE6 well enough (talking sub EF6 sound here) but both are underpowered. SR71b of course packs a punch in its great tiny form; the BUDA is a more solid sound and a decent handluggageable amp if you want a good lighter one as I also do (price handily dropped some 30pc a year back). But both you have to turn Volume full up for HE6 unlike EF6 (my sources are HM 801/901). As between BUDA and EF6 though latter is unbalanced as I understand it, I much prefer EF6 but all your comments point north to DS+HE6. Hopefully the buck stops there!

So EF6 and DS are both equally powerful to drive HE6 ?

As for me SR71b is powerful enough to drive LCD2 but not HE6 IMO, maybe because I only had LCD2 running in balance mode.?

 

I started to realized that Burson 160DS is pretty much not meant to drive planar magnetic headphones, really really running out of juice.

post #284 of 372
Hello Canadian411,

No, I don't think they are both equal: EF6 has plenty of power to drive HE6 as it was mated for this by Fang, and I typically listen to jazz at 11 o'clock position normally for most recordings and classical abit lower or higher...depending on the recorded volume and "sweet spot". For HD800 etc. probably 10 o'clock...by way of power. I have not got my DS yet but it is clear DS is very way more powerful and probably significantly better overall sound as others review. However they are at two very different prices...! I think EF6 is great value for money and music quality for most good listening (someone talked of clipping in orchestras) and I won't be parting soon as I like it a lot.
Best, N.
post #285 of 372
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Hello Canadian411,



No, I don't think they are both equal: EF6 has plenty of power to drive HE6 as it was mated for this by Fang, and I typically listen to jazz at 11 o'clock position normally for most recordings and classical abit lower or higher...depending on the recorded volume and "sweet spot". For HD800 etc. probably 10 o'clock...by way of power. I have not got my DS yet but it is clear DS is very way more powerful and probably significantly better overall sound as others review. However they are at two very different prices...! I think EF6 is great value for money and music quality for most good listening (someone talked of clipping in orchestras) and I won't be parting soon as I like it a lot.

Best, N.

 



Thanks Nishy for the info, I read somewhere HE6 requires about 6 watts at 50 ohm but technially only need about less than 1 watt with respect to the voltage produced. I am not a tech-guru so I really don't know when it comes to fine detailed techechnical discussion smily_headphones1.gif

I think like you said EF6 is good value for the money, just about half the price, have some serious thinking next few days. smily_headphones1.gif

Thanks again !
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