Agreed, but We have yet to see or hear how Chris_Himself's new wire is. I'm excited to find out.
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Does anyone from Null Audio post here? The Arete cable pictured on their website is different than the one reviewed here. I just want to make sure which one I'm actually ordering.
This is what's on the website:
EDIT: Also, do you know if the old UERM cable will fit westone 2-pin connections?
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Too bad that's silver plated copper instead of pure silver.

The Toxic Cables cable is much more flexible than the old stock of Chris_Himself cables. He's getting in a new order of a stranded variety, so it will increase flexibility. Not sure how flexible the IEM cable is, but I have an LOD of Toxic Cables that gives you a pretty good idea of flexibility. I also have a Chris_Himself LOD, so it's comparing apples to apples in this case
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Yes, and just copper variety too. Sound travels on the outside, shouldn't have much of an effect that its not a silver core anyways
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Well I'll keep looking for stranded pure silver cables under $100 
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Completely understandable. Cables are a weird thing where some may hear a difference others may not so if you want pure you want pure, just because to you it sounds different. I gotta test out his new cables before i make my decision, but I don't know when that'll be.
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I could me mistaken, but I thought that solid-core wire has fewer crystal boundaries, anyone know if this is right?
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Yea, pretty sure you're correct, but it's about the type of wire too. Chris_Himself's new wire will be OCC stranded wire.
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I have been researching in cables and wires for the past 8 months, and have been told from a reputable wire manufacturer that:
- If the strands that make up the wire are too thin, then the properties of the single crystalline structure are adversely affected
- During the manufacturing of electroplated wires, e.g. silver plated copper wires, the silver will NOT have the single crystalline structure due to the electroplating process, but the copper would still have the single crystal structure
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Interesting. It all makes sense. It all still comes down to how it sounds in the end though. And how it is in build quality and flexibility and micro phonics. So, I still will be waiting or talkign to Chris_Himself about getting some of the new wire to try it out for myself or to find out who's reviews are of the new stuff.

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- During the manufacturing of electroplated wires, e.g. silver plated copper wires, the silver will NOT have the single crystalline structure due to the electroplating process, but the copper would still have the single crystal structure
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One last interesting note before we veer off topic too much:
Taken from the Cardas Audio website: http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=faqs&content_id=6&pagestring=Cable+Materials
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Good luck with that.
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The Symbiote cable is quite thick and I think with an ER4B, the Lune or Arete would be the best pairing from an ergonomic standpoint, although the SD is also good. Are there components in the cable of the ER4B?

Does anyone from Null Audio post here? The Arete cable pictured on their website is different than the one reviewed here. I just want to make sure which one I'm actually ordering.
This is what's on the website:
EDIT: Also, do you know if the old UERM cable will fit westone 2-pin connections?
It is the same thing, mine just has a jacket on it. The before Sept 1, 2010 cables from will fit a Westone socket.
The audio frequencies actually travel on the interior of the wire. You have to go up to UHF (or is it VHF) to get the signal to travel on the skin.

One last interesting note before we veer off topic too much:
Taken from the Cardas Audio website: http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=faqs&content_id=6&pagestring=Cable+Materials
"Silver Plated, Copper Conductors
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. The Heir Audio cable, for example, is silver plated copper but sounds better than a stock cable while some silver plated copper Belden wire I tried at one point sounded worse than pure copper.
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Thanks for the responses average_joe. The Arete seems like a good deal, but I ordered the UERM cable first because it's 60 bucks less so I'll see how that works out.
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OK, cool. Let us know how you like the UERM cable.
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