18 custom IEM/TF10/Shure/IE8 cables reviewed (Effect Pearl, Apollo, & Odin added 3/20/13) - Page 28

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Originally Posted by scootermafia 

Oh, hello.

 

 

This makes me wish I had a cool element of a logo to integrate into a CIEM. Very nice. I bet you got a whole room filled of cables you've tried with those things.

Actually I'm starting from scratch figuring out how to cable these, they are my first CIEM but not my first IEM, they are very unique in their sound though.  Lots of options for sure.  And the cable has to fit inside the case...

Westone charged me a gruesome amount for the double logo and the rush express service.  These are now my most expensive headphone, beating my wholesale-obtained LCD3s and original price HD800s.

About microphonics, this whole phenomenon is overrated.  Teflon based wires are the most compact but have the most microphonics as people call them, since the insulation is firmer and thinner.  The trade off is that polyethylene insulated cables are larger.  When your music is off and you run your fingers up and down certain cables, there's that fun rattling noise.  But when your music is going, it's really not a huge concern...you hear the music.  And most times when you're listening, you're chilling out and not bonking the cable around.  

Congrats on the CIEM's. I love my CIEM's as well. I notice that just the stock IEM cable on mine and using my CH Silver Ray LOD causes an extreme amount of microphonics when I walk around campus. I plug my CIEM's into my iPod and continue walking and no microphonics effect (or very very minimal if at all). 

Back to cables, I think your cables interest me the most since you always are seeming to work on interesting cables more so than any other company I follow. Mine cost a boat load too....let me know when you come up with the most epic of cable solutions. I'm definitely interested to hear what you come up with, and would totally be willing to beta test some cables if you want :-D

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Originally Posted by scootermafia 

Actually I'm starting from scratch figuring out how to cable these, they are my first CIEM but not my first IEM, they are very unique in their sound though.  Lots of options for sure.  And the cable has to fit inside the case...

 

Westone charged me a gruesome amount for the double logo and the rush express service.  These are now my most expensive headphone, beating my wholesale-obtained LCD3s and original price HD800s.

 

About microphonics, this whole phenomenon is overrated.  Teflon based wires are the most compact but have the most microphonics as people call them, since the insulation is firmer and thinner.  The trade off is that polyethylene insulated cables are larger.  When your music is off and you run your fingers up and down certain cables, there's that fun rattling noise.  But when your music is going, it's really not a huge concern...you hear the music.  And most times when you're listening, you're chilling out and not bonking the cable around.  

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Originally Posted by kenman345 

Congrats on the CIEM's. I love my CIEM's as well. I notice that just the stock IEM cable on mine and using my CH Silver Ray LOD causes an extreme amount of microphonics when I walk around campus. I plug my CIEM's into my iPod and continue walking and no microphonics effect (or very very minimal if at all). 

 

Back to cables, I think your cables interest me the most since you always are seeming to work on interesting cables more so than any other company I follow. Mine cost a boat load too....let me know when you come up with the most epic of cable solutions. I'm definitely interested to hear what you come up with, and would totally be willing to beta test some cables if you want :-D

Microphonics as they apply to this sort of audio is just the mechanical vibrations that translate to your ear when you bump your IEM cable with the music off.  You can't get them with interconnects though, that's basically impossible.  The stock cables still have plenty of microphonics, in that if you twiddle the wire that's attached to your ears, you'll feel vibrations.  Firmer wires have more microphonics though.  But I don't get how an LOD could cause that when it's not mechanically coupled to your ears.

Microphonics from a LOD eh...   .......

I am not quite sure, but I have strong winds around my college campus and I can repeated try what I said in my previous post and without fail it's the CH LOD. I've even tried other LOD's using other wire and I was fine as well. It's a weird phenomenon, maybe the signal is getting weird from wind as it enters my amp section and that gets amplified. 

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Originally Posted by scootermafia 

But I don't get how an LOD could cause that when it's not mechanically coupled to your ears.

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Originally Posted by Girls Generation 

Microphonics from a LOD eh...   .......

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Originally Posted by kenman345 

I am not quite sure, but I have strong winds around my college campus and I can repeated try what I said in my previous post and without fail it's the CH LOD. I've even tried other LOD's using other wire and I was fine as well. It's a weird phenomenon, maybe the signal is getting weird from wind as it enters my amp section and that gets amplified. 

 

Sound more likely to be an intermittent short than mirco phonics.

I don't quite agree as it experiences no signs of shorting when I move the cable around, it's only when It's very windy around and using that LOD. I literally hear the wind like the LOD is picking it up like a microphone would. any ideas on how to test and know for sure?

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Originally Posted by average_joe 

 

I agree.

Posted this on the other thread:) Since no one mentioned toxic cable here, thought I should add it here. Have tried twag and Chris himself before, this silver toxic cable certainly level up (if not top) their build qualities. Very flexible, great finish. It pairs JH16 pretty well by adding a bit more smoothness and depth to the sound. The OM connector pins fits perfectly. More importantly, this cable provides a slightly brighter presentation to the 5 way (more aggressive in a good way), so that the details is easier to be heard. The bass seems to be a bit tightened too. Great match with 801+Game. Also the cable fits in the recessed socket really very tightly (twag cable can be easily pulled out when inserted in). Frank from Toxic cable is absolutely helpful and responsive. He replies emails within 2 hours normally. They have plenty IEMs cable options. I have another sliver plated copper cable coming for my 5 way exclusively!

I'm torn between the Null Audio Lune, DHC Symbiote, and the Moon Audio Silver Dragon. I'll be using it with my Etymotic ER4B. Any suggestions to sway me one way?

My biggest concern with the Etys is having no microphonic feedback on the cord, and good over the ear fit. 

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Originally Posted by tupac0306 

Posted this on the other thread:) Since no one mentioned toxic cable here, thought I should add it here. Have tried twag and Chris himself before, this silver toxic cable certainly level up (if not top) their build qualities. Very flexible, great finish. It pairs JH16 pretty well by adding a bit more smoothness and depth to the sound. The OM connector pins fits perfectly. More importantly, this cable provides a slightly brighter presentation to the 5 way (more aggressive in a good way), so that the details is easier to be heard. The bass seems to be a bit tightened too. Great match with 801+Game. Also the cable fits in the recessed socket really very tightly (twag cable can be easily pulled out when inserted in). Frank from Toxic cable is absolutely helpful and responsive. He replies emails within 2 hours normally. They have plenty IEMs cable options. I have another sliver plated copper cable coming for my 5 way exclusively!

When you say very flexible, is it like the standard iem cable that most custom cable comes with? Cause I just purchased Chris_Himself cable, while everything looks nice, the cable is quite stiff and I dislike that.

The Toxic Cables cable is much more flexible than the old stock of Chris_Himself cables. He's getting in a new order of a stranded variety, so it will increase flexibility. Not sure how flexible the IEM cable is, but I have an LOD of Toxic Cables that gives you a pretty good idea of flexibility. I also have a Chris_Himself LOD, so it's comparing apples to apples in this case

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Originally Posted by yjt93 

 

When you say very flexible, is it like the standard iem cable that most custom cable comes with? Cause I just purchased Chris_Himself cable, while everything looks nice, the cable is quite stiff and I dislike that.

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Originally Posted by yjt93 

 

When you say very flexible, is it like the standard iem cable that most custom cable comes with? Cause I just purchased Chris_Himself cable, while everything looks nice, the cable is quite stiff and I dislike that.

I have Chris himself cable too. They are no where as flexible as toxic cable.