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Thinking about getting an after market amp

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So over the past 2 weeks or so I have been very active on this board because I have finally saved up enough money to buy some higher end headphones and it seems that MANY of you have found that amps improve sound greatly.  

 

For me I personally have found it very hard to hear any differences between different gear with my HD-650s.   But at the same time I have not heard much,  only a windows phone 7 smart phone, headphones out from my pc, an after market creative x-fi sound card and my maverick audio DAC. http://www.mav-audio.com/  So now that I think about it I never really have given an after market amp a try.

 

The headphones that I'm pretty much set on are the Audeze LCD-2.  

 

The two amps that have caught my eye on this board are the Schiit audio Asgard http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=1   and the Headroom Micro amp http://www.headphone.com/headphone-amps/headroom-micro-amp.php

 

My question to you guys is Considering the fact that my Maverick Audio DAC already powers my HD 650s fine would I benefit from an after market amp?  And if so what amps would you guys recommend?   

 

I really like the asgards $249.99 price but at the same time the idea of crossfeed sounds like it might be worth the extra money for the micro amp.  $350 is pretty much maxing my budget and I like to listen to every type of music at all volumes ( low level to face melting ) so I need an amp that can do every thing with the LCD-2.

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If you think the HD650 runs fine off the D1 then don't allow curiosity to command what your wallet does. The shortcomings of a system aren't from the component count or total cost, but from what you perceive is lacking in the sound. Best that you listen to other systems, and not necessarily just headphone systems. Speaker-based systems might be available in audiophile shops near you, or in some car audio shop's demo cars (not all car audio is about obnoxiously showing off how you can blow the windows off).

 

Just an example, I didn't just start off going for audio equipment, but I've always had Walkmans and Discmans since I was 5 years old. Then later I began complaining, "What the hell is James Hetfield still strumming that guitar when I only hear it on the intro? And why do they need Jason Newstead, I never hear his bass anyway." Later on I had a band, saw a lot of live performances, and eventually heard a car built for IASCA. Then other people got me to go into the audio shops that I used to think had "snooty" proprietors, but apparently there was only this one shop owner that people either hated or liked. I modded my car, eventually set-up a small system in my dorm, then got frustrated with home speakers altogether due to room modes and switched to cans. Throughout all that I noticed other things in the playback quality, like fast drums sometimes losing some notes or just grab your attention more in other systems. Our drummer before is just getting into getting portable audio gear, and I brought him to a meet so I wouldn't be speaking in abstractions about how the gear can make the music sound more "alive."

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If you think the HD650 runs fine off the D1 then don't allow curiosity to command what your wallet does. The shortcomings of a system aren't from the component count or total cost, but from what you perceive is lacking in the sound. Best that you listen to other systems, and not necessarily just headphone systems. Speaker-based systems might be available in audiophile shops near you, or in some car audio shop's demo cars (not all car audio is about obnoxiously showing off how you can blow the windows off).

 

Just an example, I didn't just start off going for audio equipment, but I've always had Walkmans and Discmans since I was 5 years old. Then later I began complaining, "What the hell is James Hetfield still strumming that guitar when I only hear it on the intro? And why do they need Jason Newstead, I never hear his bass anyway." Later on I had a band, saw a lot of live performances, and eventually heard a car built for IASCA. Then other people got me to go into the audio shops that I used to think had "snooty" proprietors, but apparently there was only this one shop owner that people either hated or liked. I modded my car, eventually set-up a small system in my dorm, then got frustrated with home speakers altogether due to room modes and switched to cans. Throughout all that I noticed other things in the playback quality, like fast drums sometimes losing some notes or just grab your attention more in other systems. Our drummer before is just getting into getting portable audio gear, and I brought him to a meet so I wouldn't be speaking in abstractions about how the gear can make the music sound more "alive."

I agree for the most part.  And no there is No place with in driving distance that i can listen to.  All we have down here is best buy.    The closet hi-fi shop is in North Carolina.

 

Speakers are out of the question for me I live in small home with my mom and my brother and I would not be able to play music off of speakers with out disturbing them.   Also i find speakers and the gear that I would need to get the sound that I am happy with are well outside of my budget.  

 

On that note I have heard other speaker systems I once heard some Magnepan speakers and that to me have been my bench mark.   My goal is to recreate that level of detail and sound quality because to me that sounded **** near perfect. 

 

The point you made about "curiosity commanding my wallet"  that's a very good point, but if I figure worst case is that an after market amp won't sound any different and in that case I will just send the gear back and get my money back.  I am willing to part with the money if I do indeed get better sound ( read closer to the Magnepan level of detail)  but I can't know unless I try.  

 

with that said has any one had any time with the asgard/micro amp and the LCD-2 or an amp in that price range with crossfeed?

 


Edited by Super MANSKITO - 8/1/11 at 8:20pm
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If you'd really want to try out if there's a difference, both were designed with the 300ohm Senns in mind, but I'd bet on the Asgard (partly for the RCA input). Do take note it's a fairly transparent, low-power Class A. Meaning it will most likely transmit the sound off your D1 without changing the basic response. That said, the D1's headphone out might sound different through the headphone out and the analog outputs, although I'm not sure if the tube only goes out the variable lineout. In any case, there is a chance you might not immediately hear the difference, but the thing with low-power Class A's is how smooth they are without the tendency of tubes to get too thick in the midrange. Make sure you vent it, and don't stack it with teh D1 either, since the whole chassis acts as the heatsink.

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If you'd really want to try out if there's a difference, both were designed with the 300ohm Senns in mind, but I'd bet on the Asgard (partly for the RCA input). Do take note it's a fairly transparent, low-power Class A. Meaning it will most likely transmit the sound off your D1 without changing the basic response. That said, the D1's headphone out might sound different through the headphone out and the analog outputs, although I'm not sure if the tube only goes out the variable lineout. In any case, there is a chance you might not immediately hear the difference, but the thing with low-power Class A's is how smooth they are without the tendency of tubes to get too thick in the midrange. Make sure you vent it, and don't stack it with teh D1 either, since the whole chassis acts as the heatsink.



Why would RCA input matter, can't i just a RCA to mini jack adapter?   And you don't think the extra 100 for the head amps crossfeed is worth it? 


Edited by Super MANSKITO - 8/2/11 at 11:15pm
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You can, but I'm just the sort who'd avoid converters as much as possible. I did only say "partly." The rest of it is because the Asgard will save you $100.Just be sure that you buy a calbe that's already RCA>3.5mm, since the male 3.5mm>female RCA plugs might stress the jack if you connect heavy RCA plugs on it.

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