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Strong Recommendation: Echo Audiofire

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I'd like to take a moment to HIGHLY recommend the Echo Audiofire range for those who have firewire at their disposal.

Here's an RMAA at CD quality, and at 24bit. I've captured higher on 24bit (up to 115DNRA) but this seems to be the average.


I'm using an audiofire 12, which uses the same converters as the rest of the audiofire line (and several others).

 

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For CD quality, this is extremely close to perfect for an undithered signal

 

You can view what perfect reproduction looks like here http://learjeff.net/RMAA/Ideal%2016_44.htm

 

It's a fairly cheap, mid-tier dac for 24bit as you can see (though to beat it in 24, you're looking at 3k+ for as many inputs and outputs as my $500 audiofire 12 has), the CD quality performance is exceptional

 

Just some notes:
 As it's not class compliant (it uses its own drivers), it's less user friendly than some.
I'm not sure the Audiofire 2 (the cheapest one, which uses the same things measured above) is usable as a stand alone dac away from firewire. I know the audiofire 12 is not, but the audiofire 8 is.

 

The AF2 can be had for $200 or so. The AF12 I got for $500, which I believe is roughly the price of the AF8 as well; both of which are capable of doing bluray playback over firewire (and I think the AF 8 can over optical too, but you'd have to check)
Cheers.

 

Edit: If you have questions about the software, feel free to ask

Edit:: Asked mods to move to computer as source (woops)


Edited by MrGreen - 7/28/11 at 12:08pm
post #2 of 5

Great, I'm glad it turned out well for you, Echo Audio is often compared to RME when it comes to sound quality, but at a much lower price.

As far as I remember, the AudioFire 2/4/Pre8 use a AK4620 chipset supporting 24/96 while 8/12 models use a Cirrus Logic chipset with 24/192 support.

The AudioFire 2/4 can be used without the need for a computer, don't know about the others, but the AudioFire 2 makes an excellent transport.

 

I don't believe I have ever seen a picture of the internals of the AudioFire 12, I would be interesting to see one.

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I do believe they all use the same dac now after there were problems with the CL chipset.

 

I'll take some pics of internals later on.

The CD performance is exceptional from a technical perspective for the price

 

post #4 of 5

Oh they all use the same DAC now, interesting, opening your AudioFire up can confirm this.

 

I looked closer at your numbers and compared to the reference you linked to, and it is indeed very impressive.

Especially when considering AudioFire interfaces have some of the lowest latencies achievable by any audio interface, and have the efficiency (Firewire being full-duplex makes good use of the CPU performance) as PCI/PCI-Express cards, but with the same advantages as USB devices have, plus more.

AudioFire card can be daisy chained, so multiple AudioFire cards can operate as one with the combined number of in/outs of all the interfaces in the chain.

Very neat if you have a big band spread out across a big area or just need a huge amount of in/outs.

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I know my Audiofire uses the new dac because the firewire bezel faces the opposite direction to what the originals did. I work across weekends, so I'll get you the internal pics during the week

 

I get about 1ms for stereo playback, and about 10ms total (5 in 5 out) for playback of multiple channels + synth input

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