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post #16 of 31

Mine his with my 17" Macbook Pro too, though I can only hear it during silence and for a few seconds before it goes silent. I believe it's just the DAC in the MBP, not the earphones themselves, since it doesn't do this with my other sources.

post #17 of 31

Shures are 10db more efficient than most. It means you DAP lasts longer but noisy sources will be that much easier to hear.

post #18 of 31

The SE530 I owned hissed on some sources as well, but adding an amp to the equation pretty much removed that. Strange that the iPhone 4 headphone out also didnt produce any hiss with it.

post #19 of 31


 

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Originally Posted by felixtum2010 View Post

Well then I do not understand why everybody gives the Shure really good reviews. And I need to be specific here. A lot of the people on this board probably know their way around high end headphones and IEM, and can spot little differences between some high end IEMs. But that is not what I mean, I have no clue about audio, but I can tell that this hiss noise is annoying as hell. So why would you spend 400 euros on IEMs if they produce this freaking hiss? 

 

Can you tell me exactly what I need to buy in order for the hiss to vanish? I read that those Crystal Cable piccollo LODs in combination with a Headamp Pico DAC/Amp combo are pretty good. Will this setup sound REALLY good with my iphone, unlike it does now? 

 

 



I have had the Westone 3 and the Shure 535's together for several months The W3's (regardless of the Specs) run at about the same volume as the 535's. Maybe at an almost undetectable lower volume. I use a Sony no amp (almost always with no EQ) I don;t find the slight hiss on the 535's to be bothersome at all, and the W3's do have a slightly less hiss, but again I wouldn;t buy the W3's over the 535's due to it having less hiss. Had to sell my 535's but they are absolutely fantastic, with probably the best midrange available. I have read that the Mac's have produced alot of hiss. I have also run my 535's and W3's with my wife's I touch and again the hiss on both was slight, which is undetectable during the quietest parts of almost everything. Wish I could help more, but I have no idea what your running into. Can you try another alternate source? I would do this before buying Amps. An amp I'm afraid won;t help your issue Good Luck

post #20 of 31
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Originally Posted by Soidus View Post

Typically, laptop sound card(even desktop) has alot of noise because the sound card is integrated on the motherboard.  The motherboard has a lot of conductor paths, and conduction or current flow causes induction or magnetics which induces current or signal on nearby circuit such as the sound card.  It happens more so for the laptop because of the proximity of the circuitry around it and the integration aspects.  Some laptops you can hear EMI from hard drivers spinning through the sound port. In addition, there is a lot of heat being radiated inside the laptop, which also causes noise. You can open up the laptop and try to isolated it like how Essenese STX desktop card is done, but is just too much work.  I would suggest getting an external sound card(that is attached through usb cable), not a dongle(it will pick up noise).  You can get a X-Fi Surround 5.1, and it will not have noticible hiss, if you need a transportable.  
 



 

Great points. I so get ever so more hiss from my Vaio, but again nothing like the OP is complaining about
 

 

post #21 of 31

Can't believe it took you guys like 8 posts before you mentioned the earphones were not causing the hiss.  Dudes.

post #22 of 31
“Amp noise“--Hiss from the amp (analogue circuit driving the headphones) has two components: one that scales with volume level (what I‘ll call ‘proportional noise‘ and one that doesn‘t (what I‘ll call ‘background noise‘. On sensitive earphones like the Shures you hear it as noise at the lowest volume level with the amp turned on and no music playing, and more noise as you turn the volume up. (portable devices often turn off the amp after a few seconds of no sound activity, which might hide this noise) ‘Proportional noise‘ is usually very low except on atrocious sources, so at normal listening volumes you usually only hear noise from sensitive earphones.

Using an external amp can let you hide the ‘background noise‘ by turning up the volume on the source to near maximum (so they‘d just about blow up your sensitive earphones if directly connected) and turning down the volume on the external amp. This reduces the sensitivity of your phones as viewed from the computer/iPod.

Using an external DAC/amp combo bypasses the computer/iPod‘s amp altogether. Theoretically, if your external amp is a poor one you could still hear hiss. wink.gif
post #23 of 31

It's usually just thermal noise that doesn't change with volume that's the problem. Proportional noise is generally not and issue as it's masked by the higher music level and below the musics noise floor. External amps usually have more power and gain and are generally not a solution since more gain means a higher multiplier of what ever noise it has even if less but it really does depend on the individual product.

post #24 of 31

Are you shure sure you are inserting them correctly and you are using the right sleeves to get a tight seal? I only have the SE215 and they already sound way better than the standard apple ear buds, no experience with the SE535 yet but the difference should be quite big I assume. I wouldn't notice a hiss with my Tinnitus anyway :P So im planning on getting the SE535 next :)

post #25 of 31

I think it's more likely the impedance of the earphone that is causing the perceptible background noise.  The sensitivity has more to do with the dynamic range of the phone or ultimate loudness for a given signal.  A higher impedance may hide the noise floor.  Not that this helps you.  I note a similar problem with my mac book but not my 3GS iphone.

post #26 of 31

LOL. I feel sorry for the 535's they are in such unsure hands. And a apple fan boy by the sounds too...

 

Its splashed all over this forum that your sound set up is only as good as your weakest link. Your weakest links are your s jobs white goods. I feel the pain of buying 400+ headphones and expecting them to just work but that is precisely what they are doing - picking up your talkative sound card, and Iphones poor quality audio out port.. I would go a DAC like the FiiO E7 (or wait for the E17 like I am) for the laptop. And a DAP of your choice for portable listening. Leave the Iphone at home, there are enough sheep already in the world, get a nice android phone thats open source, mostly free for apps and therefore treats you with some respect. Unlike apple that considers the consumer stupid and tries to make the products 'child proof' while charging through the nose for the trouble.

post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by Reticuli2 View Post

Can't believe it took you guys like 8 posts before you mentioned the earphones were not causing the hiss.  Dudes.



Took you 21.

 

post #28 of 31

i had this same issue with my macbook and IEMs.  Got a fiio portable dac, and im all good now.. thanks for the advice guys.

post #29 of 31

The SE535's are certainly the most sensitive IEM's Ive ever used and they really will highlight a noisy output / amplifier. The upside is punchy dynamics even from low powered outputs.

 

I also own the Shure SRH 940's which are totally free from hiss which I'm guessing its to do with higher impedance or lower sensitivity.

 

 


Edited by manningr83 - 11/16/11 at 1:12pm
post #30 of 31

I currently have the se535 ltd (jpn version). I got hiss when I plug into my ipod 6 gen, lg optimus g pro. but when i use the ipod line out (bypassing the internal amp) the hiss is gone. is this normal or do i have a faulty iem? thanks guys.

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