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post #76 of 124
7/6/12 at 6:50am
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Yeah, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the Metrum Octave.  If you buy it within the EU you get lumped with a 19% tax.  If outside the EU, no tax but you 'may' have to pay import duty (some haven't).

http://www.metrum-acoustics.nl/price_list.html

All products sold in EU have tax included in the price, Metrum adds it when you checkout. No difference.
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post #77 of 124
7/6/12 at 8:46am

Synthesis Matrix 24 bit tube dac.  Italian company.  This DAC does support 24bit/192khz via USB. Around 4k

 

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Also must not forget Audio Note.  DAC 5 signature below, around 60k

 

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Melos DACs may not still be in production but they are (or were) wonderful tube DACs.  The middle component is the DAC, around 3k

 

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Edited by colinharding - 7/9/12 at 11:13am
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post #78 of 124
7/7/12 at 9:18pm

  There's a new French made Micromega usb dac, called "Mydac".
 

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post #79 of 124
9/4/12 at 9:18am

A few more

Lampizator Poland http://www.lampizator.eu/newdac/lampizator/welcome.html

 

DCS United Kingdom http://www.dcsltd.co.uk/

 
Arcam United Kingdom http://www.arcam.co.uk/
 
 
 
 
 
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post #80 of 124
9/6/12 at 8:30am

Not that it is affordable.  Don't forget this:

 

dcs -> UK

http://www.dcsltd.co.uk/product/debussy-dac

 

But who knows ... biggrin.gif

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post #81 of 124
9/6/12 at 8:41am

There must be one or two millionaires on Head-Fi don't you think? wink_face.gif

 

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Not that it is affordable.  Don't forget this:

 

dcs -> UK

http://www.dcsltd.co.uk/product/debussy-dac

 

But who knows ... biggrin.gif

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post #82 of 124
9/6/12 at 5:42pm

Don't underestimate head-fi  biggrin.gif

 

 

dcs Vivaldi => 110K. => (CD transport + Upsampler + DAC + Master clock)

Need your advice, do you think I can get the best of my LCD-2 with this?

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post #83 of 124
9/6/12 at 5:50pm

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What would be the best European dac maker / model at any price?

 

I have currently a Meier system that I like a lot but I want to upgrade.

 

 

At any price, I'm pretty sure => dcs Vivaldi. 

You may need to mod the caps, internal cabling and some resistor to further improve the sound (soundstage, detail, etc).

 

I believe you don't need to upgrade anymore once you have this as there's simply no more upgrade.

 

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post #84 of 124
9/6/12 at 9:21pm
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At any price, I'm pretty sure => dcs Vivaldi. 

You may need to mod the caps, internal cabling and some resistor to further improve the sound (soundstage, detail, etc).

 

I believe you don't need to upgrade anymore once you have this as there's simply no more upgrade.

 

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Sure there will be in a couple of years.

And you forgot to add the amp and the cables on top of this.

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post #85 of 124
9/6/12 at 9:41pm
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At any price, I'm pretty sure => dcs Vivaldi. 

 

 

I have my doubts on that as the dCS is S-D. I reckon a decent multibit DAC (something based on TDA1541A perhaps) would have better dynamics. Have a look over here (just to give one example) : http://www.ecdesigns.nl/isd-player/isds1

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post #86 of 124
9/7/12 at 1:23am

I would doubt it, as the DCS Ring DAC is legendary, and made from discrete components developed in house at DCS, Its not a mass produced off the shelf chip set that most manufactures use.  Also its upgradable via various releases of firmware as new features come along like playing hi-res DSD files.  I know of no other commercial DAC which is equivalent, except possibly MSB, but I'm not that familiar with their implementation. However the DCS sound may not be for everyone as it majors on detail.

 

In fact a lot of the stuff out there are just bog standard off the shelf components or ready built modules thrown together is a box and touted as revolutionary, or novel on some way.  I'm afraid its a bit of a sham, and has been going on for decades. 

Its called marketing!   wink_face.gif

 

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I have my doubts on that as the dCS is S-D. I reckon a decent multibit DAC (something based on TDA1541A perhaps) would have better dynamics. Have a look over here (just to give one example) : http://www.ecdesigns.nl/isd-player/isds1


Edited by complin - 9/7/12 at 1:31am
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post #87 of 124
9/7/12 at 1:28am

You haven't given consideration to how the dCS ring DAC has become legendary? I'll give you a clue - its called marketing.

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post #88 of 124
9/7/12 at 1:30am

What about Weiss?

 

Don't they use proprietary chips?

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post #89 of 124
9/7/12 at 1:35am

Yep Weiss use ESS now, they were using TI/BB. 

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post #90 of 124
9/7/12 at 1:35am

No off the shelf I believe PCM1792,  ESS9018 etalt

 

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What about Weiss?

 

Don't they use proprietary chips?

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