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post #46 of 55
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Now the clamp is kinda at my jaw. is there any way to make the pads more comfy without replacing them cause i heard that other earpads affect the SQ?

post #47 of 55

After 2 months of use the clamp will not be so strong..

Make patience..

post #48 of 55
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Originally Posted by Optimus Praim View Post

After 2 months of use the clamp will not be so strong..

Make patience..



Allright sorry for constantly nagging on about this i am just a person who wants the best out of the M50s with what I got.

Here are the facts so far about my experience with them:

 

a) 85 hrs burnt in- do notice a big difference from when they came out of the box which is good.

 

b) I am driving them off an ipod touch and/or toshiba laptop 2005- no amp used cant afford one.

 

c) I have had them almost 1 month now

 

d) I have done the foam pad removal mod and I am trying to see what became better- some of my music is still below 256 or 320 kbps so am still trying to upgrade most songs to those standards. UPDATE: The electrical tape mod does prevent ears from touching drivers after foam mod but i didnt notice much of difference in SQ except for slightly more piercing tremble.

 

e) when my right ear is in the pad, i can feel the pad clamping against my jawbone below my ear and am constantly adjusting it to relieve the tension but after a little bit the clamped feeling comes back. This isn't affecting my left ear or left pad almost at all. UPDATE: I stretched them out so they dont feel so clamped to my head as much as before. Also put electrical tape under the pads so my ears didnt touch the drivers. Again, before the electrical tap mod, i only really felt the drivers with my right ear and barely my left. I'm just gonna assume that my right ear is just screwed up or something and will hopefully get used to the pads by itself.

 

Those are my main points about the M50s for me so far. I'll update them if something comes up. Any suggestions or tips to these points(or ones I haven't mention), feel free to comment on this thread because any advice would be helpful and much obliged. Thank You dt880smile.png


Edited by Player1josh46 - 7/22/11 at 2:12pm
post #49 of 55

Regarding the clamping, can you put a couple of books together that is just slightly wider than your head and have the M50 "clamp" on it when you're not using it?

 

It took my M50 a month or so before I could finally wear it without the clamping hurting the area around my ears. Now I can wear it for several hours comfortably, except when it's hot where I'm at. Note though that when I got it, I was using it for at least 2 hours a day -- sometimes even 4-5 straight hours of weekend SC2 laddering.

 

 

 

My buddy who spent a couple days with my M50 before ordering his own said that there was definitely a difference between my well-broken-in ones and his right out of the box, but nothing too crazy.

post #50 of 55

 

Hello, I'm new to the audiophile scene.  For the longest time, I've been stuck with these cheap, $20 pair of Skull Candies, and at this point I'm utterly sick of 'em.  I need a real pair of cans!  There's a couple things I want from them:

 

 

- Preferably circumaural, closed-back - although I'm willing to make a compromise. Mainly because I don't want people within 10-foot radius listening to what I'm hearing.  Isolation at a mid range would be preferable.  If there's an open-back that still provides decent isolation, I'd gladly take those.

 

- Preferably no amp required. Again, I'm willing to make a compromise.  But I don't the first thing about amps, so if recommended a pair of cans that require an amp, I'd appreciate a recommendation on an affordable amp as well (portable or desktop, whichever one).

 

- Good, clean sound - a balanced sounding headphone; perhaps with a slight emphasis on bass.  I'll be using them mostly for gaming, music, and movies.  I listen to a lot of classic rock and house (which has lots of bass).  I do a lot of gaming, which bass tends to enhance the experience.  So I guess the emphasis on bass is justified, although I'm hoping it doesn't conflict with my tastes towards classic rock music (in which case, mid-ranges are important).  Nonetheless, I do appreciate nice mid-ranges.  I'm assuming all of this can be adjusted through trail-and-error with an EQ though.

 

- Around $200 (USD).  If an amp is needed, I'm willing to spend no more than $65.  Although I suppose I can dip in my budget for new cans to go towards an amp.  I'm guessing there's a sweet spot somewhere.

 

 

From what I've gathered, these headphones seem to be the most recommended that suit towards my needs (that don't require an amp):

 

- Audio Technica ATH-A900

- Audio Technica ATH-M50

- Sennheiser HD25-1 II

- Sennheiser HD 595/598 (although I believe these are open-back)

 

 

If there's any other recommendations, I'd be happy to hear them.  At this point, I'm a little confused on which one to get.  Certainly advice from the pros will help me out. Thank you in advance.

post #51 of 55
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Originally Posted by ExLegend View Post

 

Hello, I'm new to the audiophile scene.  For the longest time, I've been stuck with these cheap, $20 pair of Skull Candies, and at this point I'm utterly sick of 'em.  I need a real pair of cans!  There's a couple things I want from them:

 

 

- Preferably circumaural, closed-back - although I'm willing to make a compromise. Mainly because I don't want people within 10-foot radius listening to what I'm hearing.  Isolation at a mid range would be preferable.  If there's an open-back that still provides decent isolation, I'd gladly take those.

 

- Preferably no amp required. Again, I'm willing to make a compromise.  But I don't the first thing about amps, so if recommended a pair of cans that require an amp, I'd appreciate a recommendation on an affordable amp as well (portable or desktop, whichever one).

 

- Good, clean sound - a balanced sounding headphone; perhaps with a slight emphasis on bass.  I'll be using them mostly for gaming, music, and movies.  I listen to a lot of classic rock and house (which has lots of bass).  I do a lot of gaming, which bass tends to enhance the experience.  So I guess the emphasis on bass is justified, although I'm hoping it doesn't conflict with my tastes towards classic rock music (in which case, mid-ranges are important).  Nonetheless, I do appreciate nice mid-ranges.  I'm assuming all of this can be adjusted through trail-and-error with an EQ though.

 

- Around $200 (USD).  If an amp is needed, I'm willing to spend no more than $65.  Although I suppose I can dip in my budget for new cans to go towards an amp.  I'm guessing there's a sweet spot somewhere.

 

 

From what I've gathered, these headphones seem to be the most recommended that suit towards my needs (that don't require an amp):

 

- Audio Technica ATH-A900

- Audio Technica ATH-M50

- Sennheiser HD25-1 II

- Sennheiser HD 595/598 (although I believe these are open-back)

 

 

If there's any other recommendations, I'd be happy to hear them.  At this point, I'm a little confused on which one to get.  Certainly advice from the pros will help me out. Thank you in advance.



I'd say the M50's fit your description the best. It's one of the few closed-back phones with a *slight* emphasis on bass, most other cans are rated as either adequate/not enough bass, or rather overwhelming basshead bass. It requires absolutely no amp, with good EQing (I'll get to that in a bit) the M50's can have really neutral sound with a kicking bass, smooth highs, and any kind of mids you want.

 

About EQing, if you listen to music primarily on your computer, you're in luck. Parametric EQing is possible on the PC and if you follow this guide here,

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial

You'll be able to create a personalized extreme precision equalization for the specific M50's sound on your head.

 

If you just install the Electri-Q in that thread and figure out how to play music with it in the background, you can try my equalization file for the M50's:

http://ompldr.org/vOWs1dQ/EQ%20ATH-M50.e-q

 

Cheers!

post #52 of 55
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post





I'd say the M50's fit your description the best. It's one of the few closed-back phones with a *slight* emphasis on bass, most other cans are rated as either adequate/not enough bass, or rather overwhelming basshead bass. It requires absolutely no amp, with good EQing (I'll get to that in a bit) the M50's can have really neutral sound with a kicking bass, smooth highs, and any kind of mids you want.

 

About EQing, if you listen to music primarily on your computer, you're in luck. Parametric EQing is possible on the PC and if you follow this guide here,

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial

You'll be able to create a personalized extreme precision equalization for the specific M50's sound on your head.

 

If you just install the Electri-Q in that thread and figure out how to play music with it in the background, you can try my equalization file for the M50's:

http://ompldr.org/vOWs1dQ/EQ%20ATH-M50.e-q

 

Cheers!



Thank you very much for all the helpful tips.

 

 

How does M50's stack against the Ultrasone HFI-780's or 580's?


Edited by ExLegend - 7/20/11 at 7:13pm
post #53 of 55
Thread Starter 

Allright sorry for constantly nagging on about this i am just a person who wants the best out of the M50s with what I got.

Here are the facts so far about my experience with them:

 

a) 85 hrs burnt in- do notice a big difference from when they came out of the box which is good.

 

b) I am driving them off an ipod touch and/or toshiba laptop 2005- no amp used cant afford one.

 

c) I have had them almost 1 month now

 

d) I have done the foam pad removal mod and I am trying to see what became better- some of my music is still below 256 or 320 kbps so am still trying to upgrade most songs to those standards. UPDATE: The electrical tape mod does prevent ears from touching drivers after foam mod but i didnt notice much of difference in SQ except for slightly more piercing tremble.

 

e) when my right ear is in the pad, i can feel the pad clamping against my jawbone below my ear and am constantly adjusting it to relieve the tension but after a little bit the clamped feeling comes back. This isn't affecting my left ear or left pad almost at all. UPDATE: I stretched them out so they dont feel so clamped to my head as much as before. Also put electrical tape under the pads so my ears didnt touch the drivers. Again, before the electrical tap mod, i only really felt the drivers with my right ear and barely my left. I'm just gonna assume that my right ear is just screwed up or something and will hopefully get used to the pads by itself.

 

Those are my main points about the M50s for me so far. I'll update them if something comes up. Any suggestions or tips to these points(or ones I haven't mention), feel free to comment on this thread because any advice would be helpful and much obliged. Thank You dt880smile.png

post #54 of 55
Thread Starter 

Allright sorry for constantly nagging on about this i am just a person who wants the best out of the M50s with what I got.

Here are the facts so far about my experience with them:

 

a) 85 At or near 100 hrs burnt in- do notice a big difference from when they came out of the box which is good.   SQ is really great but you really do need decent sounding mp3s or other files to really enjoy them. Almost done upgrading all my songs to comply with this situation.

 

b) I am driving them off an ipod touch and/or toshiba laptop 2005- no amp used cant afford one.

 

c) I have had them almost 6 weeks now

 

d) I have done the foam pad removal mod. Sound is slightly better and clearer. WARNING: If you have big hears and you are considering doing this mod, I can tell you that your ears will touch the drivers and it can be very annoying. I did an electrical tape mod you can look up that makes pads more elevated but personally it made them less comfortable for me. It is supposed to have new sound changes but i didn't notice anything extremely different.

 

e) when my right ear is in the pad, i can feel the pad clamping against my jawbone below my ear and am constantly adjusting it to relieve the tension but after a little bit the clamped feeling comes back. This isn't affecting my left ear or left pad almost at all. STRETCH THEM OUT IF NEED BE. They do have a strong clamping force but you can loosen them up to fit your head. I wish the headband was a little more soft and it is a minor grip.

 

f) about Point E, my right ear is almost constantly touching the driver yet my left ear doesn't seem to feel anything. Both drivers and pads are the same so i didn't know what was up. Same with the clamp. Before I stretched them, my right jawbone always felt discomfort after a while but my left didn't hurt at all. This might be a problem just for me, who knows. But I now know that with the foam pads i probably would have felt less touching of the driver but hey, some things you have to give up to get what you want. I kinda fixed the issue a little by adjusting the M50s to my head but i can still feel it slightly. With music playing though, it is less of a glaring problem.

 

Those are my main points about the M50s for me so far. I'll update them if something comes up. Any suggestions or tips to these points(or ones I haven't mention), feel free to comment on this thread because any advice would be helpful and much obliged. Thank You dt880smile.png

post #55 of 55

Not trolling here.

 

The only two distinct things I managed to take away from testing both the M50 and HD438

side by side is that the M50 feels more neutral and clear, while the HD438 sounds bassier and

that the HD438 is 25000x more comfortable than the M50.

 

This is running from a mediocre source in a very, very, very noisy store but I guess it's still

a fair test to me, since I'm rarely sitting at home listening to music, I'm always on the go and stuff.

 

Before testing the M50s, I've heard a lot of great reviews and comments from users, and I thought the
extra SGD$110 (ATH-M50s for $238, HD438 for SGD$130) was justifiable as the M50s were supposed
to be very clear-sounding and bassier than my entry-level HD438s but tbh, I was disappointed.

 

I'll go back to the store in a few weeks to check it out again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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