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post #811 of 954
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Originally Posted by Sparky191 View Post

I think my cx475 are a step up from my 3950 regardless of the tips used.

 

I'm sure they are, but at 4 times the cost ( Amazon ) plus with the way I go through earbuds, that $9 cost I paid, which included the shipping, has a decent enough sound to make them the perfect throwaway earbud. Based on how I go through phones at the gym, I'd rather throw away $9 than have to sacrifice anything decent in my collection. Might try the Monoprice 9927's next just as a comparison.

post #812 of 954

Those Monoprice, while a good sound, can be really quite uncomfortable.  The 3590 has them beat hands down to me at least.

post #813 of 954
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post
 

Those Monoprice, while a good sound, can be really quite uncomfortable.  The 3590 has them beat hands down to me at least.


Good to know. Thanks for the info.

post #814 of 954

Honestly, the Monoprice are so cheap, I suggest you give em a try yourself.

post #815 of 954
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Originally Posted by callanish View Post
 

 

I'm sure they are, but at 4 times the cost ( Amazon ) plus with the way I go through earbuds, that $9 cost I paid, which included the shipping, has a decent enough sound to make them the perfect throwaway earbud. Based on how I go through phones at the gym, I'd rather throw away $9 than have to sacrifice anything decent in my collection. Might try the Monoprice 9927's next just as a comparison.

 

You're probably right. I'm just not blown away by these philips. The CX400 are probably like the CX300's which I had and didn't like either, exactly as you describe. Bloated bass. I think Senns like the CX200 and the CX400's are better balanced. They are less popular so you often see them on special sale even in B&M stores. I got the CX475's for a little over twice the cost of the philips. 

 

But like you say the philips punch above their price certainly. At least they stay in your ear unlike the MH1C's ;)


Edited by Sparky191 - 3/7/14 at 1:39pm
post #816 of 954

just had to say that i pulled these out of my drawer today and listened to them.

 

wow i can't believe they sound so good ( i paid 16$ at walmart for them)

 

i actually prefer them over my monster turbines, which i actually got after the philips (spent 50$ used) but their like 179 msrp

 

the turbines had MORE sub bass and in general bass and a thicker sound but was less controled, mids were less recessed and had more warmth

 

but the philips had a tighter bass response abeit less quantity, and the bass was well layered,mids were decently clear but recessed,  treble was more extended and more exciting than the turbines

 

both have driver flex but the philips had a bit more

 

i think wider bore tips work well on the philips

 

clearly the 163$ difference for the monster turbines went straight towards the housing quality (metal>plastic on the philips) the cable was a slightly improvement, and obviously the packaging and the brand that monster brings with it

 

i'm definitely getting more philips she3590 in the future (i can work out with them and not worry about breaking them (their cheap enough to replace every so often (worked out with them already over 8 months or so, cables got nasty and damaged but its still alive)

 

philips keep producing theses beauties! i'll keep buying em

post #817 of 954

I removed the mesh fiters and took out the foam inside the nozzle and put RE0 filters onto the nozzle. With this mod the sound is better than before I think. More forward mids not as recessed as before the mod. Bass and treble is also more controlled and faster than before. I just love the way it sounds now. Definetely worth this mod if you have some RE0 filters. I am sure you will like your 3590s even more.

post #818 of 954
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Originally Posted by ozkan View Post

I removed the mesh fiters and took out the foam inside the nozzle and put RE0 filters onto the nozzle. With this mod the sound is better than before I think. More forward mids not as recessed as before the mod. Bass and treble is also more controlled and faster than before. I just love the way it sounds now. Definetely worth this mod if you have some RE0 filters. I am sure you will like your 3590s even more.

Very interesting, i have some re400 filters. I could give this a try but if i remove the metal mesh, im assuming its gone for good. I might get a new 3590 to test this out. Just to compare. And canabalise my old one hehe.
post #819 of 954
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post


Very interesting, i have some re400 filters. I could give this a try but if i remove the metal mesh, im assuming its gone for good. I might get a new 3590 to test this out. Just to compare. And canabalise my old one hehe.

 

Yes it'll be gone forever for good.:D Not a big deal. Just try and don't forget to share your impressions.

post #820 of 954

I just got these in the mail today and I thought they were awful for being my first pair of in-ear headphones. I don't understand how they got such high praise, they sound awful and are very uncomfortable after 15 minutes of use. I threw them back in the packaging and didn't think anything of it, as I got them for $8 shipped new; not a big loss.

 

Fast forward a few hours later and I remembered they came with some tips. I thought these things were just for comfort, so I decided to see if they would at least be a bit more comfortable. After switching out the stock tips for the smallest ones, the experience changed completely. They were a lot more comfortable and the sound blew me away. I didn't know until watching a tip removal video, but the tips also help seal the speaker in your ear. I kid you not, when these are properly seated and sealed in my ears, they sound better than my over hyped ATH-M50 I bought and paid $120 for.

 

I still can't believe I paid $8 for these. :etysmile: 

 

edit: After a few hours use they do get uncomfortable, anyone have any recommendation for some longer replacement tips?


Edited by iosi3 - 4/2/14 at 5:31pm
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On Amazon it says these have been discontinued, but the Target near me just got more of the 3590 in stock with packaging that says "Extra Bass" which is new. So are these discontinued or not? Have they altered the sound or just the packaging?
Edited by glove4 - 4/9/14 at 11:24am
post #822 of 954

Just got these today since they are so cheap. Quick review to add to the other 821 posts... :)
 

These sound very nice for the price. The overall frequency response on the pair I received seems very balanced and even, certainly not"neutral" in the superbright etymotic sense, but certainly with a very natural balance and with voices generally devoid of throaty, essy, or unnatural-sounding reproduction. I will agree that the 4kHz area is just a little bit strained and trying slightly too hard. Who knows if prolonged use might relax that slightly and loosen it up so that it will get a bit more variation in volume rather than the fairly tense feeling it has. Still, overall not too bad at all.

 

These also have the quality of retaining their detailed, lively feel at lower volumes. They reproduce reverbs and room noises very well in movies. They also work quite well for orchestral stuff, the frequency balance across the spectrum keeps acoustic sounds very natural, again without any really bothersome tendencies towards coloration in the mids and upper mids and treble.

 

Not overly wide stereo field, but definitely not below normal. Some music will give an enveloping feel.

 

Transient and dynamic properties are quite good aswell, picks on acoustic strings have that detailed, lively quality to them, with the transients delivering all the way up the spectrum.

 

Congested music like metal etc tends to sound strained though, like they loose their finer edge and texture, giving a slightly dull feel at times.

 

Overall though, for such a low price, in a lot of ways these really behave very similar to much more pricey headphones. Spectral balance is good, texture at most volumes is retained, very decent liveliness and bounce and motion, Engaging stereo presentation with a very good sense of ambience towards the sides and in front with regards to reverbs. Acoustic music in particular has that fine edge, air and breath to it from high frequency material that really brings it to life and sells the illusion of instruments in a room.

 

Will be interesting to see if they have any perciveable differences in sound after giving the drivers some workout.

 

EDIT: Despite different tips and quite alot of playing time, they are quite "wall-of-sound"-y due to their relatively low dynamic range (probably due to the small drivers). Basically, they don't give quite as much general, or natural, variation in volume across the spectrum as other drivers may, so music will almost feel like there is a slight limiter or compressor applied to it, and things like snare drums or other percussive elements don't quite punch through as effortlessly as they would need in order to give a more transparent sound, and so your ears can fatigue more easily due to this.

 

Still, for the price, particularly if you are looking for a pair of running headphones or such, or just aren't as sensitive to thicker sounding headphones, these can be a bargain.


Edited by Airlight - 4/12/14 at 4:49pm
post #823 of 954
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Originally Posted by Airlight View Post
 

Just got these today since they are so cheap. Quick review to add to the other 821 posts... :)
 

These sound very nice for the price. The overall frequency response on the pair I received seems very balanced and even, certainly not"neutral" in the superbright etymotic sense, but certainly with a very natural balance and with voices generally devoid of throaty, essy, or unnatural-sounding reproduction. I will agree that the 4kHz area is just a little bit strained and trying slightly too hard. Who knows if prolonged use might relax that slightly and loosen it up so that it will get a bit more variation in volume rather than the fairly tense feeling it has. Still, overall not too bad at all.

 

These also have the quality of retaining their detailed, lively feel at lower volumes. They reproduce reverbs and room noises very well in movies. They also work quite well for orchestral stuff, the frequency balance across the spectrum keeps acoustic sounds very natural, again without any really bothersome tendencies towards coloration in the mids and upper mids and treble.

 

Not overly wide stereo field, but definitely not below normal. Some music will give an enveloping feel.

 

Transient and dynamic properties are quite good aswell, picks on acoustic strings have that detailed, lively quality to them, with the transients delivering all the way up the spectrum.

 

Congested music like metal etc tends to sound strained though, like they loose their finer edge and texture, giving a slightly dull feel at times.

 

Overall though, for such a low price, in a lot of ways these really behave very similar to much more pricey headphones. Spectral balance is good, texture at most volumes is retained, very decent liveliness and bounce and motion, Engaging stereo presentation with a very good sense of ambience towards the sides and in front with regards to reverbs. Acoustic music in particular has that fine edge, air and breath to it from high frequency material that really brings it to life and sells the illusion of instruments in a room.

 

Will be interesting to see if they have any perciveable differences in sound after giving the drivers some workout.

very nice first impressions!

 

these definitely punch well above their price! i just took mines out today for a listen when walking around the mall, i forgot how good they sounded! mines is 2-3 years old and still going strong lol, cables getting nasty (i use to work out in them) the strain reliefs are frayed) but they still put out fantastic sound

 

i think burning them in a good idea for sure for these i remember i did about 50 hours or so before that spike calmed down

 

also maybe try a wider bore tips? the stock ones are fine to start out with but i'm using a wider bore/ apeture it opens up the sound more (the mids come out a more) tones down some of that bass, but still punchy! 

 

sound stage is still very closed, and in the head but for how much i paid for them (16$) and how badly i abused them. they lasted this long and continues to make me smile

post #824 of 954

Just got a pair of these myself as a result of some posts I read in a few threads and I have to agree - price aside, these things simply sound great.  So much so, that is it almost unimaginable that they sell for so cheap.  It is the most significant oddity I have ran across in my journey to experience the best sounding music that I can.  I think I paid $20 or so for them and all I can say is, if this is what Phillips can produce for $20, what on earth could they do with a $400 pair of IEMs.

post #825 of 954
Is the 3595 the same as these?
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