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post #331 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

AFAICT 3580 and 3590 have the same response.  Here's a by-ear comparison of the 3580 and 3680 response:

 

Red: SHE3580, black: SHE3680.  I wouldn't read much into the difference at the two ends of the spectrum as the results there are not consistent with different fit from different sessions (for the subbass) and I can't even hear the highest notes;  all I would say is that the 3680 has more midbass and doesn't have the 3kHz hump.  The other two peaks at 5300Hz and 8000Hz are dependent on tips and fit (I used the small stock tips in both cases, I've sinced moved on to medium tips on the 3580).  Remember also that these FR are relative to my own ideal, not an objective flat response.


Thanks for the graph.

So what would you say has a "better sound": SHE358x or 368x? Can you hear any real difference?

 

Thank you. :)

post #332 of 901
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Thanks for the graph.

So what would you say has a "better sound": SHE358x or 368x? Can you hear any real difference?

 

Thank you. :)

yea, thanks for the graph!

post #333 of 901
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Thanks for the graph.

So what would you say has a "better sound": SHE358x or 368x? Can you hear any real difference?

 

Thank you. :)

 

I think most people will find the 358x sound more "hi-fi" with a more hefty bottom end, less obtrusive midbass and clearer highs.  After listening again with real music I'd say the difference in subbass is definitely real.

post #334 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

 

I think most people will find the 358x sound more "hi-fi" with a more hefty bottom end, less obtrusive midbass and clearer highs.  After listening again with real music I'd say the difference in subbass is definitely real.

 

So among all the differences reported you find that the subbass is the aspect that is more definite and noticeable comparing the two.

Ok. Cool. Thank you very much for the reply. :)

post #335 of 901
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So among all the differences reported you find that the subbass is the aspect that is more definite and noticeable comparing the two.
Ok. Cool. Thank you very much for the reply. smily_headphones1.gif

No, I was just retracting my earlier comment that the graphed differnce in subbass couldn't be relied on. The other findings regarding midbass and treble are just as valid.
post #336 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post


No, I was just retracting my earlier comment that the graphed differnce in subbass couldn't be relied on. The other findings regarding midbass and treble are just as valid.


Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification.

Have a nice day.

post #337 of 901
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Originally Posted by cyloh View Post

Now how about SHE9700? I heard from a nutty man that these use the same driver, same SQ yet better bass due to the tunnel like design.

 

thanks for this wonderful thread Joe Blogg!

 

just bought SHE3575BW (Black White) here in Indonesia. a satisfied customer here.:D

i use it with samsung galaxy nexus, stock Google Play Music app with Rock equalizer preset, and bass boost and 3D effect turned off.

i wish the bass is deeper and more punching, and the treble has more clarity like Philips SHE9700 though.

 

any real comparison between SHE3580 variant and SHE9700?

i really like SHE9700, it has more deeper bass -feels like there's a built in sub-woofer inside- and less fatigue treble.

unfortunately Philips SHE9700 didn't have the one with built in mic variant. :(


Edited by chrone - 9/2/12 at 10:29am
post #338 of 901

hey Joe, any idea of the 3570?? too many number models , very confusing

post #339 of 901
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Originally Posted by Zelda View Post

hey Joe, any idea of the 3570?? too many number models , very confusing


If I recall correctly 3570 = 3580, different model #s for different (geographical) regions.

post #340 of 901

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post #341 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

Try some comply T-400 tips. You compress them before putting them on and they then expand to fit your ear canals. One of the easiest to seal tips.
Also try pulling back on your right ear with your left hand (arm wrapped behind your head) while putting the earpiece in with your right hand and vice versa for the left ear. I get a deep and consistent seal this way, it's recommended by etymotic.

 

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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post


I tried comply tips and t-400 fit more snugly than t-500. As far as comfort goes I actually found the stock tips more comfortable.

 

Hey Joe and all of Head-Fiers,

 

I found that the stock SHE3575 ear tips somehow irritates my right ear though having no issues with stock SHE9700 ear tips. I also noticed that using medium size ear tips was the best to get the sub-bass out while I have no problem using the small size ear tips on SHE9700.

 

The questions are

  1. If on SHE3575 I found the medium size is the best to use with, should I purchase the medium size of Comply Foam T-400 tips?
  2. Is it worth it to purchase the Comply Foam Tx-400?
  3. By reading your experience that you found best comfort using stock, is Comply Foam really that stiff which is contrast with their marketing?
  4. Last but not least, will it increase the sound quality especially helping to produce more sub-bass and less fatigue treble?

 

Thanks in advance. I'm facing a dillema here considering the mix size between the T-400 & Tx-400 right now. :D

 

Kind regards,

 

 

chrone

post #342 of 901
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Originally Posted by rappard View Post


If I recall correctly 3570 = 3580, different model #s for different (geographical) regions.

 

No, 3570 was the predecessor model to 3580, but someone wrote Philips and they said they are identical

 

They have different coloured eartips though (coloured on 3570, translucent on 3580)

post #343 of 901
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Originally Posted by chrone View Post

 

 

Hey Joe and all of Head-Fiers,

 

I found that the stock SHE3575 ear tips somehow irritates my right ear though having no issues with stock SHE9700 ear tips. I also noticed that using medium size ear tips was the best to get the sub-bass out while I have no problem using the small size ear tips on SHE9700.

 

The questions are

  1. If on SHE3575 I found the medium size is the best to use with, should I purchase the medium size of Comply Foam T-400 tips?
  2. Is it worth it to purchase the Comply Foam Tx-400?
  3. By reading your experience that you found best comfort using stock, is Comply Foam really that stiff which is contrast with their marketing?
  4. Last but not least, will it increase the sound quality especially helping to produce more sub-bass and less fatigue treble?

 

Thanks in advance. I'm facing a dillema here considering the mix size between the T-400 & Tx-400 right now. :D

 

Kind regards,

 

 

chrone

 

Why not just put the medium stock 9700 tips on the 3575?

post #344 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

 

No, 3570 was the predecessor model to 3580, but someone wrote Philips and they said they are identical

 

They have different coloured eartips though (coloured on 3570, translucent on 3580)

and the 3590 is the succesor? so it´s just the 35** or 36**. well. that´s sums everthing up

post #345 of 901
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

 

Why not just put the medium stock 9700 tips on the 3575?

 

Oh shoot, *donkey face*. Should have try it first. My bad.

I realized I got better sub-bass when opening my jaw using the small ear tips on SHE3575, and after changing it to medium size, it's getting better.

Out of curiosity, does the Comply Foam T-400 produce better sub-bass and treble compared to stock ear tips?

 

After couples PMs with Joe Blogg today, I want to update my experience on Google Play Music app for all around performance on better sub-bass and less fatigue treble:

  1. set it to Flat preset
  2. turn off the bass boost and 3d effect
  3. tune the 230Hz two levels down
  4. tune the 910Hz three levels down
  5. tune the 4KHz two levels down
  6. tune the 14Khz one levels down

 

Hope this helps for others using Philips SHE3575 on vanilla Android phone. :D


Edited by chrone - 9/3/12 at 12:20pm
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