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post #256 of 603
7/16/12 at 11:03am
Just got she3570 and she3590 for 3$ each at a local store.
They are very nice especially considering the price.
But in my opinion they are not as good as the FX1X or the focalprice ck700.
she3590 < fx1x < ck700
The ck700s are better in every aspect (better bass , better highs , wider soundstage , better cable and better fit) but for 3$ these are a steal.
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post #257 of 603
7/16/12 at 11:56am

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Originally Posted by alexander321 View Post

The Focalprice CK700s are better in every aspect ...

 

Do these from from Hong Kong?  7-10 days shipping to the USA?  I might grab a pair of these at only $6.50, no shipping fee.

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post #258 of 603
7/16/12 at 10:49pm

At that price, does it matter where they come from ? I'd get 3 pairs if they arent sold locally - fantastic backup IEMs for pennies. 

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post #259 of 603
7/17/12 at 2:09am

Just picked up a pair of the 3680's at Dick Smiths for $10. Perfect for work and everyday use.

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post #260 of 603
7/17/12 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by nickyboyo View Post

Just picked up a pair of the 3680's at Dick Smiths for $10. Perfect for work and everyday use.

 

Isnt it weird that we can get these almost anywhere in Oz while folk from the US and elsewhere seem to be stuck with EBay.  We have so little choice in terms of decent headphones generally - JB Hi-Fi, DSE and the other chains stock a few Senns and a mountain of dross from the likes of Skullcandy. Dont even ger me started on Hardly Normal - they stock total crap at grossly inflated prices, To be fair, commercial rents in our cities are exorbitant. 

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post #261 of 603
7/18/12 at 10:45am

where in oz streeter?

music shop in queen street bris carries a few decent phones especially over ear, and the harvey norman next door used to have the full range of shure with demo's.

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post #262 of 603
7/18/12 at 9:29pm

I lived in Brisbane for many years, and I've never seen Shure in a Hardly Normal - guess I was just unlucky. The Allan's Music store upstairs at the Casino end of the Mall has a range of Fostex and a few AKG phones, but they are mostly aimed at musos and way overpriced. 

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post #263 of 603
7/19/12 at 6:04am

i am in a dilemma and maybe you guys can help me. i own several 35XX and love them. i listened to customs, w4, se535, tf10, ie8 end so on, but all of them sooner or later fatigued me. the philips dont. everything should be alright, but i am still searching for a little more resolution. my main problem is piercing highs. i am quite picky about that. although the she35XX offer a strong v-shape and therefore very emphesized highs, they do not offend me. 

 

here is my list with the ones i own(ed) and what i do not like about them:

 

- eph-100 could not stand the treble. sub bass was great and mids also. they reminded me of the denon d2000 cans, i had the same problem with

 

- se215 although they have rolled of treble they cause fatigue after 3 minutes, do not know why

 

- fischer audio silver bullets: highs were ok, rest too warm and muffled

 

- fischer audio tandems : same piercing highs as the yamahas

 

- ha-fx101 highs are ok, but it sounds too artifical some how

 

- apple dual driver, oh my god

 

- se535 to shouty mids, to less sub bass rumble, highs are ok

 

- w4 too less sub bass rumble

 

- ie8 too much midbass and dark sounding

 

- sm3 way too dark and wierd soundstage

 

- sm2 same as sm3

 

- ex1000 too thick in the mids

 

- ue11pro too warm overall, claustrophobic soundstage 

 

- phonak audeo nice, but as all armatures no sub bass rumble

 

- w3 piercing highs, mid bass hump was horrible

 

- um3x too warm and no soundstage

 

think i forgot a few, but maybe you already know what i am searching for. as for cans i love my k701 and shure srh940. so i love my highs, but some phones seam to have a peak or two i cannot stand.

 

hope you guys have some suggestions.

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post #264 of 603
7/19/12 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

i am in a dilemma and maybe you guys can help me. i own several 35XX and love them. i listened to customs, w4, se535, tf10, ie8 end so on, but all of them sooner or later fatigued me. the philips dont. everything should be alright, but i am still searching for a little more resolution. my main problem is piercing highs. i am quite picky about that. although the she35XX offer a strong v-shape and therefore very emphesized highs, they do not offend me. 

 

here is my list with the ones i own(ed) and what i do not like about them:

 

- eph-100 could not stand the treble. sub bass was great and mids also. they reminded me of the denon d2000 cans, i had the same problem with

 

- se215 although they have rolled of treble they cause fatigue after 3 minutes, do not know why

 

- fischer audio silver bullets: highs were ok, rest too warm and muffled

 

- fischer audio tandems : same piercing highs as the yamahas

 

- ha-fx101 highs are ok, but it sounds too artifical some how

 

- apple dual driver, oh my god

 

- se535 to shouty mids, to less sub bass rumble, highs are ok

 

- w4 too less sub bass rumble

 

- ie8 too much midbass and dark sounding

 

- sm3 way too dark and wierd soundstage

 

- sm2 same as sm3

 

- ex1000 too thick in the mids

 

- ue11pro too warm overall, claustrophobic soundstage 

 

- phonak audeo nice, but as all armatures no sub bass rumble

 

- w3 piercing highs, mid bass hump was horrible

 

- um3x too warm and no soundstage

 

think i forgot a few, but maybe you already know what i am searching for. as for cans i love my k701 and shure srh940. so i love my highs, but some phones seam to have a peak or two i cannot stand.

 

hope you guys have some suggestions.

 

This thread was created on the premise that the SHE3580 can be giant killers if you feed them parametric EQ to smooth out all the treble peaks (which is exactly what you're having trouble with with so many phones), so I guess you know where I'm going.  I also remember you saying that EQ is no-go because of numerous sources used.  My answer is, pick the best phones for listening without EQ (SHE35xx?) and add EQ wherever you are able to.  Much as you like the SHE35xx without EQ, I find that they improve enormously with EQ.

 

I EQ all sounds (including stuff like movies and youtube) on the computer using VAC and VSTHost

http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress

 

I EQ all stored music on my player (Android phone), at first with the 10-band EQ in Poweramp, but now by pre-processing all the mp3s on my computer.  Yes this means I'll be stuck listening to the songs only with this model of phones, but for on-the-go HiFi listening this combination can't be beat for value and portability IMHO. (no messing about with risking expensive IEMs on the streets, or outboard DACs and amps)  The only thing I can't EQ right now is podcasts on the phone--but apparently a rockboxed iPhone can do parametric EQ on all system sounds.

 

I think if you have that much money to burn on IEMs you should be able to find a setup that EQs all your audio easily.

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post #265 of 603
7/19/12 at 7:50am
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- phonak audeo nice, but as all armatures no sub bass rumble

 

Nevermind rolleyes.gif


Edited by AN0INTD - 7/19/12 at 7:57am
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post #266 of 603
7/19/12 at 8:55am
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Nevermind rolleyes.gif

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post #267 of 603
7/19/12 at 9:54am

get your custom tuned ultimate ears , tuned as per your sound preference . or you may just need a xba-3 .
 

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post #268 of 603
7/19/12 at 10:10am

i agree bro , eq will help , but not everyone likes eq , it kills the originality of the earphone .

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post #269 of 603
7/19/12 at 11:16am

well just today i read a lot about the xba3. maybe you are right.

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post #270 of 603
7/19/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post

i agree bro , eq will help , but not everyone likes eq , it kills the originality of the earphone .

 

I dont think we' are on the same page re 'parametic eq', Nothing to do with the 'originality of the earphone'.  For starters, there is absolutely no 'one size fits all' aspect to parametric EQ, and its the first time I have considered buying a $900 box purely to be able to do EQ properly. Equalisation should be a scalpel, not a machete. 

 

Resonance is the enemy, people. 

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